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E26-2 Cockpit Locker - Am I missing something?

KS Dave

Dastardly Villain
Blogs Author
Can one of my fellow E26-2 owners post a picture of what the inside of their cockpit locker looks like? I have the feeling I'm missing something. There's a ledge (on the left in the picture) that looks like a panel might rest on and a ledge down low that has some weatherstripping left behind.

Are your lockers this open? Does your exhaust run over the top of the instrument panel like mine? The exhaust hose also seems to be rubbing on the back side of the throttle controls - I'm sure it's worn a hole.

Appreciate the help!

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KS Dave

Dastardly Villain
Blogs Author
Here's another angle. The ledge over the top of and to the right of the gas tank lead me to believe I'm missing a board (maybe two).
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Nick J

Sustaining Member
Moderator
Blogs Author
I had an E-25+ which shared the same hull as the 26-2 but didn't have the tafg. The cockpit locker looks to be configured the same. Mine did not have a shelf and I was constantly losing stuff under the fuel tank. My guess is someone put a shelf in yours, then needed to access the fuel tank or rudder post and had to remove it.

There's a few people on here with 25+ and 26-2 that have a lot of good advice and information. I don't own the 25+ anymore, but I still have a lot of pics, so feel free to reach out if you have any questions.
 

Roger Janeway

Member II
Mine looks like yours but the back of my engine instrument panel has a cover that protects it, and there's a small shelf outboard. My throttle controls are not in contact with the black exhaust hose. The blue cloth was installed by the PO and I haven't examined it. It must be there to prevent small things from falling down into the engine compartment.
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KS Dave

Dastardly Villain
Blogs Author
Mine looks like yours but the back of my engine instrument panel has a cover that protects it, and there's a small shelf outboard. My throttle controls are not in contact with the black exhaust hose. The blue cloth was installed by the PO and I haven't examined it. It must be there to prevent small things from falling down into the engine compartment.
Thanks, Roger. Very helpful! Randall's "Turtle" had the same shelf and cloth down there, too. I had him look at this thread. His exhaust didn't rub on the throttle controls, either. I might have to put a slight elbow in there to route around it. I'm going to have to fabricate a cover for the back of my instrument panel, too.

From my second post in this thread, do you have a board or something over the forward portion of your fuel tank? It looks like there's a board on that lower edge where I'm missing one.
 

Roger Janeway

Member II
From my second post in this thread, do you have a board or something over the forward portion of your fuel tank? It looks like there's a board on that lower edge where I'm missing one.
Dave, from recollection, my fuel tank and the area under the cockpit that you show in your photo is pretty much like yours. When I'm next at the boat, I'll take a photo.

On the subject of Randall's "Turtle", I am impressed by his ingenuity and perseverance, but one thing I wondered about is this: From photos, it looks like he removed the traveler from the coachroof (to make room for his dodger and other things), and ran the mainsheet to a fixed block behind the tiller. So it seems he sacrificed a traveler for other improvements. I wonder how that affected performance. I think it would reduce your ability to point.
 

KS Dave

Dastardly Villain
Blogs Author
Dave, from recollection, my fuel tank and the area under the cockpit that you show in your photo is pretty much like yours. When I'm next at the boat, I'll take a photo.
Thanks, I appreciate it!

On the subject of Randall's "Turtle", I am impressed by his ingenuity and perseverance, but one thing I wondered about is this: From photos, it looks like he removed the traveler from the coachroof (to make room for his dodger and other things), and ran the mainsheet to a fixed block behind the tiller. So it seems he sacrificed a traveler for other improvements. I wonder how that affected performance. I think it would reduce your ability to point.
Okay. So the traveler system was the standard? I wasn't aware of that. I wonder if there is a way to put a dodger in and still keep the traveler intact? I like the idea of more shade (right now, I have ZERO shade in the cockpit). I know others do a bimini or even a Magma umbrella. I got a picture of my boat from 2010 (from a PO). It used to have a bimini with a flap that kind of covered the companionway. But the weather destroyed both the canvas and frame.

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acubria

Member II
Can one of my fellow E26-2 owners post a picture of what the inside of their cockpit locker looks like? I have the feeling I'm missing something. There's a ledge (on the left in the picture) that looks like a panel might rest on and a ledge down low that has some weatherstripping left behind.

Are your lockers this open? Does your exhaust run over the top of the instrument panel like mine? The exhaust hose also seems to be rubbing on the back side of the throttle controls - I'm sure it's worn a hole.

Appreciate the help!

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acubria

Member II
Dave, this is how bad my locker looks like. I am kind of glad to see that my boat is not the only one with this horrible set up. I have not owned the boat long enough to have dropped something in there, but the day I do, I hope it is nothing expensive. It is a mess. The area under the cockpit port side is similar to yours with what looks like 30 feet of that white exhaust vent hose. My least favorite part of the boat.
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acubria

Member II
Thanks, I appreciate it!


Okay. So the traveler system was the standard? I wasn't aware of that. I wonder if there is a way to put a dodger in and still keep the traveler intact? I like the idea of more shade (right now, I have ZERO shade in the cockpit). I know others do a bimini or even a Magma umbrella. I got a picture of my boat from 2010 (from a PO). It used to have a bimini with a flap that kind of covered the companionway. But the weather destroyed both the canvas and frame.

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I will make more detailed photos if anyone is interested. My boat came with a traveller and a dodger+ bimini. The dodger center front fasteners are a bit too close to the traveller and I am afraid that for me to be able to sail, I will have to open the center window of the dodger ( at least undo the fasteners) so that the traveller can move freely. Weird design. I think I might move the traveller 1/2 inch forward, which is all it needs to clear the dodger.Screen Shot 2021-03-11 at 8.22.57 PM.png
 

acubria

Member II
Here's another angle. The ledge over the top of and to the right of the gas tank lead me to believe I'm missing a board (maybe two).
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I will make more detailed photos if anyone is interested. My boat came with a traveller and a dodger+ bimini. The dodger center front fasteners are a bit too close to the traveller and I am afraid that for me to be able to sail, I will have to open the center window of the dodger ( at least undo the fasteners) so that the traveller can move freely. Weird design. I think I might move the traveller 1/2 inch forward, which is all it needs to clear the dodger.View attachment 37649
a few more photos of the dodger + traveller combo . Both are mounted too just too close, so while the dodger canvas is attached to the the locks on the cabin, the traveller can barely move side to side. I have to provably move the traveller forward, the locks back (very little room for that) or maybe just trim the fabric to see if that helps clear the traveller.
 

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Alan Gomes

Sustaining Partner
a few more photos of the dodger + traveller combo . Both are mounted too just too close, so while the dodger canvas is attached to the the locks on the cabin, the traveller can barely move side to side. I have to provably move the traveller forward, the locks back (very little room for that) or maybe just trim the fabric to see if that helps clear the traveller.
I would not recommend moving the traveler forward as you will lose leverage. Its default position is already rather far forward as it is.
 

DaveE26

Member I
I would not recommend moving the traveler forward as you will lose leverage. Its default position is already rather far forward as it is.
The Traveler on my 26-2 was fastened to the sea hood with machine screws that were tapped into the fiberglass. Scary in a hard jibe, I replaced it with a cockpit traveler not to mention countless other upgrades.
 

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Alan Gomes

Sustaining Partner
The Traveler on my 26-2 was fastened to the sea hood with machine screws that were tapped into the fiberglass. Scary in a hard jibe, I replaced it with a cockpit traveler not to mention countless other upgrades.
Indeed. When I first got the boat I could see that the seahood flexed alarmingly with the traveler attached to it. I replaced it with a Garhauer traveler with risers. I've attached a picture of it right after I installed it. Garhauer's stuff is bullet proof.

The way you addressed it is really great also.

I can see from your photo that it looks as though you may have made some interior mods to your boat. I'd love to see them if you have any additional pictures you might be willing to share.
 

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DaveE26

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This is all I could find without really digging I have a lot more someplace. I would call my little 26-2 more of a Hinckley at this point.
 

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Alan Gomes

Sustaining Partner
This is all I could find without really digging I have a lot more someplace. I would call my little 26-2 more of a Hinckley at this point.
Looks like you've done interesting things there, Dave. I'd sure enjoy seeing whatever else you've got. It's always a helpful way to get ideas.
 

Roger Janeway

Member II
Here's another angle [looking aft under the cockpit to the fuel tank] The ledge over the top of and to the right of the gas tank lead me to believe I'm missing a board (maybe two).
My prior recollection that yours looked like mine (Post #6) was wrong. You were right that there used to be a shelf there:
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KS Dave

Dastardly Villain
Blogs Author
Indeed. When I first got the boat I could see that the seahood flexed alarmingly with the traveler attached to it. I replaced it with a Garhauer traveler with risers. I've attached a picture of it right after I installed it. Garhauer's stuff is bullet proof.
That's sharp looking. I'll have to remember to watch my traveler to see how much it flexes when I go out this Spring. However right now, I think that $600 needs to be spent in other places.
 
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