A proper way to climb a mast?!

Bolo

Contributing Partner
I recently had my marina remount a repaired Raymarine masthead unit on my E32-3 which involved the rigger and his helper because I don't go up on the mast anymore. I just don't bounce as good as I use to. Anyway, I took a short video of him ascending the mast and well....I'm not a pro but I don't think I'd do it this way. I asked if they needed a winch handle before starting and it's when the rigger said, "No", that I knew I needed to tape this one. He got the job done but made me as nervous as the "cat on a hot tin roof" as I watched from the dock.

 

Kenneth K

1985 32-3, Puget Sound
Blogs Author
Proper? I'd say a definitive "no" because I don't see any backup/safety line(s) at all. If the "helper" slips or lets go, or the winch rips off the mast, or any single piece of hardware fails, the climber is dead.

I went up my mast 4 times in the last 2 months. I go up using just prussik lines and a climbing harness. But I always have 2 backup prussiks attached to two backup lines while the primary prussiks are on the jib halyard. BTW, no helper required when using prussiks--one less thing that can go wrong.
 

Bolo

Contributing Partner
Proper? I'd say a definitive "no" because I don't see any backup/safety line(s) at all. If the "helper" slips or lets go, or the winch rips off the mast, or any single piece of hardware fails, the climber is dead.

I went up my mast 4 times in the last 2 months. I go up using just prussik lines and a climbing harness. But I always have 2 backup prussiks attached to two backup lines while the primary prussiks are on the jib halyard. BTW, no helper required when using prussiks--one less thing that can go wrong.
I have to tell you, it was a scary scene. A couple other boaters who walked by on the dock just stopped and stared at the faux Cirque du Soleil act happening on my boat. :rolleyes:
 

Kenneth K

1985 32-3, Puget Sound
Blogs Author
I wonder who's insurance gets hit if something goes wrong? He's on your boat, on the marina's property. Maybe it matters whether he's licensed and bonded.
 
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Bolo

Contributing Partner
I wonder who's insurance gets hit if something goes wrong? He's on your boat, on the marina's property. Maybe it matters whether he's licensed and bonded.
I would hope (guess) that his employer, the marina, insurance would cover any sort of accident and/or damage. But I’m not an attorney and never even played one on TV so I can’t say. I’d like to hear from anyone else who has hired a rigger to say how they got up the mast. I think it would be fair to say that most sailors on this site (non-pro riggers) would be using safety lines, winch handles or mast climbers (with a safety line) to go up the stick.
 

Vtonian

E38 - Vashon
I would hope (guess) that his employer, the marina, insurance would cover any sort of accident and/or damage. But I’m not an attorney and never even played one on TV so I can’t say. I’d like to hear from anyone else who has hired a rigger to say how they got up the mast. I think it would be fair to say that most sailors on this site (non-pro riggers) would be using safety lines, winch handles or mast climbers (with a safety line) to go up the stick.
I'd guess this fellow feels like he can climb with no safety gear, so the tailer is his safety. But doing it for work? On other's property and with all the climbing options avaliable these days, I don't get the point.

I can swim in Puget Sound in shorts but I've never seen a professional clean a hull without a wetsuit.
 

Bolo

Contributing Partner
I'd guess this fellow feels like he can climb with no safety gear, so the tailer is his safety. But doing it for work? On other's property and with all the climbing options avaliable these days, I don't get the point.

I can swim in Puget Sound in shorts but I've never seen a professional clean a hull without a wetsuit.
I even offered to help man the main halyard as his safety line but my offer was politely refused. As for Christian's comment about what his fellow rigger think I can only say that the "head of rigging" at the marina has undoubtedly seen his methods and is OK with it??? I was going to send the video to the head of the service department but torn between appreciation of getting my wind instruments rigged (he also installed a Windex for me at the same time) and exposing his, IMHO, unsafe mast climbing practice that could possibly get him in trouble or not if the manager is OK with it. A this point my feelings are to just let it be.
 

Vtonian

E38 - Vashon
I even offered to help man the main halyard as his safety line but my offer was politely refused. As for Christian's comment about what his fellow rigger think I can only say that the "head of rigging" at the marina has undoubtedly seen his methods and is OK with it??? I was going to send the video to the head of the service department but torn between appreciation of getting my wind instruments rigged (he also installed a Windex for me at the same time) and exposing his, IMHO, unsafe mast climbing practice that could possibly get him in trouble or not if the manager is OK with it. A this point my feelings are to just let it be.
I agree, I wouldn't rock the boat either. As long as you didn't have to clean splatter off your deck, 'not my zoo, not my monkey'.
 

Bolo

Contributing Partner
I agree, I wouldn't rock the boat either. As long as you didn't have to clean splatter off your deck, 'not my zoo, not my monkey'.
HA! :D "Not my zoo, not my monkey", is a phrase I haven't seen here on EYO, ever, and I would notice it because the origin of the phrase is Polish and it just so happens that I am 100% Polish. The phrase is actually, "Not my circus, not my monkeys", which in Polish is "Nie mój cyrk, nie moje małpy." It actually originated with something like not my cows, not my farm or words to that effect to mean it's best to stay out of someone else's business. I think the phrase eventually morphed into, "Not my circus, not my monkeys", because it infers confusion and trouble if you get involved and there is almost nothing that has the potential for confusion and possible trouble (if you get involved) than monkeys in circus.

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Elgyn

Junior Member
Videos like that make me cringe. I did cell tower work for years and have a Petzl harness and still have a SPRAT 1 ticket for climbing. Climbed up a 15 story building with my setup and +300 foot towers was common
Nothing like dragging out $4k in rope access gear in front of "professional" riggers to show then who's actually know the correct way of doing it
 
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