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CNG Refill

Prairie Schooner

Jeff & Donna, E35-3 purchased 7/21
My new boat came with CNG, and I'm still mulling over whether to keep it or move to propane. Other than finding places to get refills, my bigger concern is figuring out how to test the integrity of the current tank or getting a certified and inspected replacement. 2500 PSI is a lot of pressure.
That was the train of thought we went down. Then, forty year old hoses, how safe are those? And the surveyor said we should have a solenoid and a vent for rising gases. Replacing/installing that kit was going to be similar to the work of converting to propane. And if we stayed with natural gas, we'd have travel farther afield for refills. When I found a new propane stove and solenoid on CraigsList, that clinched it for us. There's a Master Thread on converting, if you haven't seen it. But, our POs used natural gas for 35 years and didn't blow the boat up.
 

Loren Beach

O34 - Portland, OR
Senior Moderator
Blogs Author
I looked for CNG bottle re-testing regulations on the 'net, and found little applying to boats, per se. I wonder if the remaining boats from the 80's with CNG are a vanishingly small % data point?
I did find this article from one vendor: https://www.gielle.it/periodic-testing-of-gas-cylinders/#:~:text=All compressed gas cylinders have,safe and fit for purpose.

I would guess, based on conversations with divers using tanks, over the years, that "regular" recertification, whether 3 or 10 years, is a must. A troubling guess is that your insurer will Really Want to know that you are following 'best practices'.... if you can figure out what they are. Like it or not, it's probably the insurers that hold a 'whip hand' in this situation. (As they do in so much stuff related to maintenance...)

If I had this tank question to ponder, I would check with my insurer and also a trusted surveyor.
Apropos of whatever, way way back when we were first boat shopping, I recall seeing - can't remember which - an Ericson or a Olson with a CNG tank installed under the cockpit. The CNG high pressure involved was one of several factors that made us move on, when boat shopping.

Not closely related, but still sort of relevant, we have had to have our two 5# extinguishers "hydro'd" every XX years according to the tag on the metal bottle. Of course the pressure is waaay lower, but this info is always checked on when we get them annually inspected and re-tagged.

Apologies for contributing to thread drift, but it does seem related.
 

greg harris

Member I
Cng

Can't speak for Noank, but it is available in Annapolis and the Chesapeake, via an exchange, at around $50.00 As for NYC, you can anything, and I mean anything, in the City, if you know your way around.
there was one marina that did exchanges in annapolis and Solomon’s but that distributor stopped two or three years ago. I have aan Ericsson 35 and purchased an adapter with two pressure gauges and a valve you can open just a little. I go to a CNG station in northern Virginia that provides CNG for CNG powered buses, Waste management garbage trucks and vehicles. I fill my 3000 psi tank to 2200 psi and the cost is less than $2.00….. not a typo two bucks. The marina, Zanheisers in Solomon’s did exchanges for $70 bucks.
if shadowfax knows where it’s available on the Chesapeake, give us the name of the marina…..I’ve had CNG stove since 1994 and I could find no one on the Chesapeake who doe# tank exchanges anymore. Have used it for three years or so. Works well. I did buy on eBay and it’s not some slip shod job. Proper high quality fittings and gauges so you can see psi of the CNG from the pump and a separate one for the psi in your tank.
 

JSM

Sustaining Member
I have aan Ericsson 35 and purchased an adapter with two pressure gauges and a valve you can open just a little
Greg , I bought the same adaptor and have been using it for the last three years without incident. Here's a link to the instructional video for it.
 
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