standing rigging replacement E35-2

[steven]

I'm hoping to re do my standing rigging soon.

Current plan is to do it with he mast up (in te water).
Hire a rigger to make the connections aloft and do the deckside myself.

Anyone know a good place to buy the new rigging already swaged?
I am going to stay conventional with twisted cable. Rec'd some quotes on the new fiber stuff and its too pricey.

Also by the way considering adding a solent - near the stem on the deck and 7/8 on the mast - there are eyes (welded I think) on the original Kenyon at 7/8 and at 3/4.

--Steve

 

[Kenneth K]

West Marine (anywhere), Rigging Only (Fairhaven, MA) and Fisheries Supply (Seattle, WA) all do custom rigging.

 

[steven]

thanks

 

[Pete the Cat]

The challenge with adding a staysail is where you attach the tack. Most of the decks are not considered strong enough without some way of transferred some of the strain directly to the hull, preferably with a rod and a small bulkhead glassed low in the boat. FWIW. Someone in the group might have already done this and have a drawing.

 

[gareth harris]

The challenge with adding a staysail is where you attach the tack. Most of the decks are not considered strong enough without some way of transferred some of the strain directly to the hull, preferably with a rod and a small bulkhead glassed low in the boat. FWIW. Someone in the group might have already done this and have a drawing.

I bought my boat with a staysail track on the foredeck, the boat was then 25 years old so I do not know whether the staysail was original. There was no connection below the deck to help take the strain from the 1/2" balsa, but I have considered attaching a removeable cable to the v-berth, which is in turn connected to the hull.

Gareth
Freyja E35 #241 1972

 

[Pete the Cat]

I bought my boat with a staysail track on the foredeck, the boat was then 25 years old so I do not know whether the staysail was original. There was no connection below the deck to help take the strain from the 1/2" balsa, but I have considered attaching a removeable cable to the v-berth, which is in turn connected to the hull.

Gareth
Freyja E35 #241 1972

Are you sure the track is not for a moveable foreguy block?? I have raced on boats with this arrangement. Allows for the bridle to be moved to keep the spinnaker pole level. The forces on a spinnaker are compression on the mast, so the track would not be anything near what a staysail would produce. Just a thought.

 

[gareth harris]

Are you sure the track is not for a moveable foreguy block?? I have raced on boats with this arrangement. Allows for the bridle to be moved to keep the spinnaker pole level. The forces on a spinnaker are compression on the mast, so the track would not be anything near what a staysail would produce. Just a thought.

The boat came with a staysail, and winches were mounted at the aft end of the deck above the cabin for the sheets. I used the staysail occasionally, but not enough to get a feel for how much extra performance it added.

 

[Pete the Cat]

The boat came with a staysail, and winches were mounted at the aft end of the deck above the cabin for the sheets. I used the staysail occasionally, but not enough to get a feel for how much extra performance it added.

I always thought a staysail was only a slight help in increasing performance to weather. Chief value was being able to downsize the triangle quickly when things get windy and a bit of help on a reach. I am willing to be schooled on this. I really would consult a rigger about this track being appropriate for the loads of a forestay without something under the deck to the hull to ground it.

 

[gareth harris]

I really would consult a rigger about this track being appropriate for the loads of a forestay without something under the deck to the hull to ground it.

It is the kind of thing that probably only a marine engineer would have any real idea on. There was no visible damage to the deck in the form of cracking or damage to the core (which I had to tear out after Hurricane Ivan), but I do not know how much the staysail was ever used.

What I am hoping a rigger can advise on is how to install a removeable cable connection between the underside of the deck and a stainless steel strap bolted to the bulkhead under the v-berth. The bulkhead is glassed to the hull so would be as solid an anchor point as is possible, and if all of the connections are under the v-berth next to the water tank then it would still be possible to sleep in there.

An E35 looks even more beautiful with three sails flying.

Gareth
Freyja E35 #241 1972

 

[steven]

I'm thinking to attach to the stem abaft the jib and 7/8 or higher on the mast (so runners are not needed).
This is sometimes called a Solent stay or inner forestay.

I guess its technically a staysl but usually a staysl is for additional reaching power and that is not the intended use.

The idea is to use it with the jib furled in heavier conditions.


--Steve