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What Blocks for Boom
- Thread starter Rick R.
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Blocks
My '88 boat came with a all Lewmar axle-type blocks, except for the great Harken 6-to-1 mainsheet system. This stuff was all "factory".
Nowadays all of the turning blocks at base of mast are changed to Garhauer roller bearing type.
Suggest you at least consider Garhauer. For more $ and less weight check out Harken.
My .02 and YMMV.
Oh yeah, if your mainsheet is binding from twisting, it's usually best to remove the line, straighten it, and re-weave it. IIRC some brands/models of line twist less than others, too.
Loren
My '88 boat came with a all Lewmar axle-type blocks, except for the great Harken 6-to-1 mainsheet system. This stuff was all "factory".
Nowadays all of the turning blocks at base of mast are changed to Garhauer roller bearing type.
Suggest you at least consider Garhauer. For more $ and less weight check out Harken.
My .02 and YMMV.
Oh yeah, if your mainsheet is binding from twisting, it's usually best to remove the line, straighten it, and re-weave it. IIRC some brands/models of line twist less than others, too.
Loren
Twisting and winches
The twisting comes from having the line on and off winches, you force twists in it when pulling it off over the top of the winch.
The solution to the twisting it to use blocks that lock into position on the both the boom side of the system. (sometimes the traveler car side too, it depends on the boat). Occasionally taking the line off the blocks and removing all the twists helps too!
Another vote for Garhauer blocks.
This was the subject of one of my old photo puzzlers. The photos should help!
http://realworldcruising.com/Photo-Puzzle-2.html
Garhauer series 30 blocks would be a direct replacement for yours. check them out at http://garhauermarine.com/catalog.cfm
Guy
The twisting comes from having the line on and off winches, you force twists in it when pulling it off over the top of the winch.
The solution to the twisting it to use blocks that lock into position on the both the boom side of the system. (sometimes the traveler car side too, it depends on the boat). Occasionally taking the line off the blocks and removing all the twists helps too!
Another vote for Garhauer blocks.
This was the subject of one of my old photo puzzlers. The photos should help!
http://realworldcruising.com/Photo-Puzzle-2.html
Garhauer series 30 blocks would be a direct replacement for yours. check them out at http://garhauermarine.com/catalog.cfm
Guy
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Rick R.
Contributing Partner
Kid in the Candy Store
Made it to the Garhauer booth at the St Pete Boat Show. Bill and Mark sold me all the series 30 blocks needed to replace all the old ones on my boom and mast base. Only $24 each! Ball bearings should be a nice upgrade.
The Admiral let me buy the outboard lifting crane (only $285) thanks to my buddy and fellow 32-200 skipper Larry Lee who texted me pics of his while I was in the booth. Another reason why this forum is wonderful.
Thanks also to Loren and Guy!
Can't wait to get back to the boat!
Made it to the Garhauer booth at the St Pete Boat Show. Bill and Mark sold me all the series 30 blocks needed to replace all the old ones on my boom and mast base. Only $24 each! Ball bearings should be a nice upgrade.
The Admiral let me buy the outboard lifting crane (only $285) thanks to my buddy and fellow 32-200 skipper Larry Lee who texted me pics of his while I was in the booth. Another reason why this forum is wonderful.
Thanks also to Loren and Guy!
Can't wait to get back to the boat!
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Steve Wall
Member II
Can you forward me the outboard lifting crane?
I have a 32-2 with an outboard hanging off and I'd love to see a picture of the crane you found.
Thanks
I have a 32-2 with an outboard hanging off and I'd love to see a picture of the crane you found.
Thanks
Rick R.
Contributing Partner
Here's a link to their site http://garhauermarine.com/catalog_process.cfm?cid=41
If Larry Lee is online he has a photo of his installed.
Rick
If Larry Lee is online he has a photo of his installed.
Rick
Steve Wall
Member II
I could not find him in the registry.
I will be happy to hear more about it and see pictures when he comes around.
I will be happy to hear more about it and see pictures when he comes around.
He appears to be checking in.........
I note that Lawrence B. Lee last checked into the site December 8, 2013, at about 10 am.
(I did a site Search on his name.)
You can click on his member name for a link to send him a private message.
Best,
Loren
I note that Lawrence B. Lee last checked into the site December 8, 2013, at about 10 am.
(I did a site Search on his name.)
You can click on his member name for a link to send him a private message.
Best,
Loren
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Steve Wall
Member II
Thanks Loren.
I am still figuring out stuff about these forums, in addition. To figuring stuff out about my Ericson.
I am still figuring out stuff about these forums, in addition. To figuring stuff out about my Ericson.
Lawrence B. Lee
Member III
Larry Lee is online
If Larry Lee is online he has a photo of his installed.
Rick[/QUOTE]
Sorry I'm late in finding this. I am retired and have very little spare time. I have the pix on my phone but I have to reduce the pixel/byte size so I don't break the site. :nerd:
I will be back ASAP
Larry Lee
Annabel Lee
E-32-200
Savannah, GA
If Larry Lee is online he has a photo of his installed.
Rick[/QUOTE]
Sorry I'm late in finding this. I am retired and have very little spare time. I have the pix on my phone but I have to reduce the pixel/byte size so I don't break the site. :nerd:
I will be back ASAP
Larry Lee
Annabel Lee
E-32-200
Savannah, GA
Lawrence B. Lee
Member III
Pictures of Outboard Davit
Steve and others,
Well I guess I figured it out. Here are the pics Rick alluded to. You might want to enlarge them a bit. A docking poll makes it hard to see the middle shot of the davit but you get the idea. The outboard (4hp Merc.) sits on the wooden seat which is supported by a broom handle (no need to tell the admiral where it came from. I advised her it was exotic teak) stained to match teak trim and cut to fit tightly so there is no deflection. The handle sits in a small piece of Starbroard with a hole drilled in it to keep the poll from wandering.
The davit arm comes in two sizes. 24 inch and 34 inch. The 32-200 needs the 34 because the transom sticks out as it approaches the water. I love this davit, It makes moving the motor almost easy.
Rick asked me to post some pix of our main doors but I will use a later post.
Larry Lee
Sorry about the spacing error in title. I tried to edit it but such allowable edits appear to be limited to text not subjects or I just can't figure it out.
Steve and others,
Well I guess I figured it out. Here are the pics Rick alluded to. You might want to enlarge them a bit. A docking poll makes it hard to see the middle shot of the davit but you get the idea. The outboard (4hp Merc.) sits on the wooden seat which is supported by a broom handle (no need to tell the admiral where it came from. I advised her it was exotic teak) stained to match teak trim and cut to fit tightly so there is no deflection. The handle sits in a small piece of Starbroard with a hole drilled in it to keep the poll from wandering.
The davit arm comes in two sizes. 24 inch and 34 inch. The 32-200 needs the 34 because the transom sticks out as it approaches the water. I love this davit, It makes moving the motor almost easy.
Rick asked me to post some pix of our main doors but I will use a later post.
Larry Lee
Sorry about the spacing error in title. I tried to edit it but such allowable edits appear to be limited to text not subjects or I just can't figure it out.
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Lawrence B. Lee
Member III
It's that time of the year.
Thanks Loren for fixing the title. And would this not be a good time to remind everyone that it's the time of the year to consider a well deserved donation to this site for all the good things we get from it? You can even use PayPal and I can testify that it is painless and you will feel so good that you did it. It's run by volunteers but NOTHING is free. Right?
I believe you can find the directions on the home page.
Larry
Thanks Loren for fixing the title. And would this not be a good time to remind everyone that it's the time of the year to consider a well deserved donation to this site for all the good things we get from it? You can even use PayPal and I can testify that it is painless and you will feel so good that you did it. It's run by volunteers but NOTHING is free. Right?
I believe you can find the directions on the home page.
Larry
Steve Wall
Member II
Thanks for the pix Larry and...
I agree that contributing is almost a joy.
I have joined a couple of forums before and spent just a little time on them before losing interest either because of inactivity of other members or just not finding enough information on them.
This site is very impressive for both those reasons and the amount that I have learned since I bought my boat was extremely unexpected.
Dunno if this should be moved to the contribution thread but here it is.
I agree that contributing is almost a joy.
I have joined a couple of forums before and spent just a little time on them before losing interest either because of inactivity of other members or just not finding enough information on them.
This site is very impressive for both those reasons and the amount that I have learned since I bought my boat was extremely unexpected.
Dunno if this should be moved to the contribution thread but here it is.
Rick R.
Contributing Partner
Triple maybe?
I put 3 new Garhauer 30's on the boom and one at the mast base. While it made an improvement in the mainsheet, it's still not that great.
At the boat show Mark (at Garhauer) said maybe I should replace the fiddle block on top of my traveler with a "triple" block, giving me a 6:1.
Has anyone had success going "triple" with mid-boom sheeting?
Thanks
Rick
I put 3 new Garhauer 30's on the boom and one at the mast base. While it made an improvement in the mainsheet, it's still not that great.
At the boat show Mark (at Garhauer) said maybe I should replace the fiddle block on top of my traveler with a "triple" block, giving me a 6:1.
Has anyone had success going "triple" with mid-boom sheeting?
Thanks
Rick
Lawrence B. Lee
Member III
So Many Lines...
Rick,
I am not sure what the trouble is here. Are you saying its hard to pull the sheet in when the wind is up? Ditto with the traveler? We just head up and take the pressure off the sail until we get the lines where we want them and then it's off to the races. Once we get the main set and have a nice pocket we use the traveler to make most of our adjustments.
Other than me calling the sheet the halyard and the halyard the sheet when under stress I am yelling at some "nubie" our biggest problem was selecting a new color for the new main sheet. I was partial to a solid royal blue or light blue. The admiral liked the gold and white with the red fleck. I told her there was no way in Hell that was going on our boat. So now when I am yelling at some "nubie" I say "For God's sake pull that gold and white line in...the one with the red fleck. <label for="rb_iconid_11">
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Life is good.
Larry
Annabel Lee
E32-200
Savannah,GA
Rick,
I am not sure what the trouble is here. Are you saying its hard to pull the sheet in when the wind is up? Ditto with the traveler? We just head up and take the pressure off the sail until we get the lines where we want them and then it's off to the races. Once we get the main set and have a nice pocket we use the traveler to make most of our adjustments.
Other than me calling the sheet the halyard and the halyard the sheet when under stress I am yelling at some "nubie" our biggest problem was selecting a new color for the new main sheet. I was partial to a solid royal blue or light blue. The admiral liked the gold and white with the red fleck. I told her there was no way in Hell that was going on our boat. So now when I am yelling at some "nubie" I say "For God's sake pull that gold and white line in...the one with the red fleck. <label for="rb_iconid_11">
Life is good.
Larry
Annabel Lee
E32-200
Savannah,GA
Rick R.
Contributing Partner
Rick,
I am not sure what the trouble is here. Are you saying its hard to pull the sheet in when the wind is up? Ditto with the traveler? We just head up and take the pressure off the sail until we get the lines where we want them and then it's off to the races. Once we get the main set and have a nice pocket we use the traveler to make most of our adjustments.
Other than me calling the sheet the halyard and the halyard the sheet when under stress I am yelling at some "nubie" our biggest problem was selecting a new color for the new main sheet. I was partial to a solid royal blue or light blue. The admiral liked the gold and white with the red fleck. I told her there was no way in Hell that was going on our boat. So now when I am yelling at some "nubie" I say "For God's sake pull that gold and white line in...the one with the red fleck. <label for="rb_iconid_11"></label>
Life is good.
Larry
Annabel Lee
E32-200
Savannah,GA
Haha Larry,
Now it makes sense! She's an architect!
I also do the "heading up" routine to depower the main sometimes. Heck, I even do it on the jib when I don't feel like cranking the winch.
I'm referring to the mainsheet being difficult to center when loaded. With the mainsheet block located on the rear of the boom, it is relatively easy to "sheet in". On our 32-200's it's not easy.
A couple years ago I recall a thread here where someone had a double block on their boom which made it easier to sheet in the main.
FWIW, I also use the traveler more often than the mainsheet.
(This response was typed using my iPad which has auto-correct managed by the spirit of my 3rd grade English teacher, Mrs Korb who continually shows me that although I write for a living, my prose is "Chicken Scratch" )
Here's my rig, in an early photo.
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Rick R.
Contributing Partner
Wow!
You even have the line run to the forward end of the boom before the mast! Ours goes from the forward most block on the boom to the block at the bottom of the mast.
Our traveler is much longer. It goes from winch to winch, almost.
Nice!
Is it hard to sheet in Christian?
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Oops. I deleted the body of the message one minute after writing it because I had uploaded the wrong picture. So, for starters, this photo has the blue main sheet led to the right winch--not the wrong one. I think I also deleted the body of the message because it was 52 percent degenerate opinionizing. But now, reading it again in the light of day, I disagree and find myself brilliant and professorial.
Glad you have a real traveler, Rick. They certainly look good, and as an owner they're right in our face, especially with all the King Kong sheaves right over the companionway. There is much compulsion here to get them beautiful and right and perhaps motorized.
I don;t control the main much with the traveler. Mine is too small anyhow.
But listen--when you ease the main in a lull, or to bump through some wakes, or to get laminar flow back, use the main sheet. That lets the top batten off and introduces twist.
A traveler is good for moving the boom inboard when close-hauled, and can control angle of attack and shape precisely.
However, it takes a racing eye to maintain these close settings and a stalled airfoil is always lurking.
So, in my opinion, the main sheet is the best bet for casual sailing, especially if you have a "cosmetic" (small) traveler, such as Ericson sold on my model.
End declaration of unsolicited opinions about travelers.
Glad you have a real traveler, Rick. They certainly look good, and as an owner they're right in our face, especially with all the King Kong sheaves right over the companionway. There is much compulsion here to get them beautiful and right and perhaps motorized.
I don;t control the main much with the traveler. Mine is too small anyhow.
But listen--when you ease the main in a lull, or to bump through some wakes, or to get laminar flow back, use the main sheet. That lets the top batten off and introduces twist.
A traveler is good for moving the boom inboard when close-hauled, and can control angle of attack and shape precisely.
However, it takes a racing eye to maintain these close settings and a stalled airfoil is always lurking.
So, in my opinion, the main sheet is the best bet for casual sailing, especially if you have a "cosmetic" (small) traveler, such as Ericson sold on my model.
End declaration of unsolicited opinions about travelers.