Yale Whiplock, Leather Palm and Needle with an initial knot to secure the bitter end or a combination of both?
If I am not mistaken (usually am) that is the same tie method as the "Yale Whiplock"...which we tied in the Sea Scouts forever ago and mentioned in the first post above. Please correct if wrong!!I have used a simple method for several decades. Waxed nylon 'twine' which is really like oversized dental floss.
I found a picture on the WWW that is pretty descriptive.
Admittedly, this is not as secure as some other methods where a needle and palm are used to pull the end thru the line to really secure it. I have done that too, but laziness seems to call me back to the simpler technique.
Steve,Which is first and which is second? Or do I just pick one?
I used the method Lauren shared for most of the lines on Luffalee, but I switched to a method Brian Toss discussed with Andy Schell on his 59 Degrees North Podcast:
The Brian Toss method seems more secure, but I've only had one of the other whippings come loose. The failure was because I pulled the knot too close to the end. If I'm in a hurry, I'll use Lauren's method, but if I have the tools and a bit of time, I try to use Brian's method. The podcast also convinced me to stop melting the ends. I was reluctant at first, but it does go through clutches easier and doesn't' hurt when you forget a stopper knot and the end pulls through your hand.
I have always had a tough time with melted ends of lines, too. They always seem to mushroom and will no longer pass through the clutch. So if Brian Toss said don’t melt the ends, so be it! No more melted ends.
By first loose end, I meant it as shown in Lorens diagram, above. It forms a loop that extends up toward the end of the line. After all the rows are wrapped over that loop, the last wrap has another “tail” which then is put through that loop. Then pull on the other loose end to pull he loop and “bury” the tail.
clear as mud, right?