Frank, thanks for the plug. I know it's not a big deal for all these old veterans, but I'm new to the ericson site and just bought my E34 on 9-13-14. Got lots to do on the on this beautiful boat. Hopefully I'll be able to make a meaningful contribution in the future. Would like to thank Loren for the valuable info. on Te-Ka. It worked great on my on deck teak hand rails. They will look great after I oil them tomorrow. Joe