Cocktail hour was entertaining

bsangs

E35-3 - New Jersey
Quite the drama in our marina last night, as a wicked storm front rolled through. A neighboring boat’s in-mast furling main was whipped out when gusts over 30 blasted us. Took some rained-soaked good samaritans about a half hour to figure out the system and finally get it under control. Knowing nothing about in-mast furling it got me to wondering what they did it incorrectly that may have prevented it.

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Drewm3i

Marine Surveyor
Quite the drama in our marina last night, as a wicked storm front rolled through. A neighboring boat’s in-mast furling main was whipped out when gusts over 30 blasted us. Took some rained-soaked good samaritans about a half hour to figure out the system and finally get it under control. Knowing nothing about in-mast furling it got me to wondering what they did it incorrectly that may have prevented it.

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bsangs

E35-3 - New Jersey
I misreported the wind. It gusted over 40 during the storm. :oops: Though there's another boat two slips down from ours with a mast furling main and that sail didn't move an inch. I've also received some more information about this boat. It's used as a "Time Share." We have seen the owner taking people out to give them lessons, but until yesterday I just thought he had a large group of friends and family. He should probably start teaching how to secure that main when buttoning up the boat after sailing. Coincidentally, some people took it out yesterday, came back to dock in 20+ winds and the docking did not get very well. I will not throw stones in that situation, however.
 

bsangs

E35-3 - New Jersey
Those tall buildings must create some interesting wind patterns for boaters.
Winds, strong confused currents from a couple rivers colliding, tide, narrow stretch of the river, and the unending parade of traffic, both large and small. We don't even bother putting the sails up anymore until we've cleared the Statue of Liberty far enough south where it opens up. I just motor on past that insanity. Gives me a good chance to clear any carbon from the exhaust elbow as I crank her to near max.
 

AK67

Member III
Some in mast furler and roller fuller foresail sailors will leave a small triangle of sail out when on mooring or docked, which generally leads to this kind of situation. I don't have much experience with in-mast furling, but I have to believe it can all be furled.
 

mjsouleman

Mark "Souleman" Soule
Moderator
In my motor/sail from Toronto to Rhode Island, I spent at night behind Ellis Island. Except for the party boat, the swells coming off the constant traffic, and the noise the view of the twin towers was nice. The traffic out to Sandy hook was better.
 

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gareth harris

Sustaining Member
I am not quite sure when you consider cocktail hour to be, but on Freyja it starts at 7pm and continues until 6:59pm on weekends and work days.

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Freyja E35#241 1972
 

bgary

Advanced Beginner
Blogs Author
I'd never buy a boat with a mast furling main. Boom furling maybe. Mast? Nope.

Ditto. In-boom furling, if it jams in the boom halfway out you can still drop the halyard and flake the sail.

In-mast furling, if it jams in the mast halfway out you're kinda hosed.
 

Christian Williams

E381 - Los Angeles
Senior Moderator
Blogs Author
And no battens, at least on the new boats around here. The leach is dead straight. The mainsail looks like a drafting triangle.

But clearly they make things easy, and work for easy sailing, and there's no sail cover or lazy jacks or gaskets all three of which cause me no joy at all, zero.

I know I am a victim of 100 years of Beken of Cowes, in which a proper yacht is a 130-foot J-Class, or a Dragon, or eventually an Ericson, the height of modernity. But down the dock the transoms are ten feet wide, the dinghy platforms luxurious, the topsides looming wierdly high, and the mainsail disappears into the mast like itwas never even there. Which, to my eye, it wasn't. On the whole the worst thing that ever happened to the world was Darwin, and I wish the evolution of everything would just STOP.
 

bsangs

E35-3 - New Jersey
And no battens, at least on the new boats around here. The leach is dead straight. The mainsail looks like a drafting triangle.

But clearly they make things easy, and work for easy sailing, and there's no sail cover or lazy jacks or gaskets all three of which cause me no joy at all, zero.

I know I am a victim of 100 years of Beken of Cowes, in which a proper yacht is a 130-foot J-Class, or a Dragon, or eventually an Ericson, the height of modernity. But down the dock the transoms are ten feet wide, the dinghy platforms luxurious, the topsides looming wierdly high, and the mainsail disappears into the mast like itwas never even there. Which, to my eye, it wasn't. On the whole the worst thing that ever happened to the world was Darwin, and I wish the evolution of everything would just STOP.
The no battens aspect to me is a bit crazy. One of our first seasons owning the boat, I pulled the main out of winter storage, strung it up the mast and a couple days later, lifting cushions in the Q-berth came across the battens still resting in their winter home. Whoops. So I said what the heck, let's see what happens. What happened was the sail was dropped about 10 minutes after it went up, as I quickly realized no battens was no bueno.
 
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