I'm curious to hear how 30+ sailors divvy up the cabin on overnights. The Admiral and I bought ours last April, and initially imagined the dinette berth would be our main bed. She's been ill and hasn't been able to head out for the past several months (on top of it being January) but we were gifted some foam mattress topper stuff and to my surprise, we both fit okay in the bow v-berth, so I reckon we will cut it to fit there. I wonder, though-how do you all handle sleepovers? Where is your preferred bunk for two?
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E30+ sleeping accommodations
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Where to sleep on the boat.
Dear friend, Marilyn and I have two large dogs with her Golden boy Frank getting pretty old. Over the years its worked out that she and Frank take over the V-berth while I sack out on the starboard pull out settee and my big dog sleeps on the cabin sole. Typically the only guests we seem to have anymore are our two adult nieces who delight in sleeping in the cockpit in bed rolls when we spend time together at Catalina Island. glyn Judson, E31 hull #55 Marina del Rey CA
Dear friend, Marilyn and I have two large dogs with her Golden boy Frank getting pretty old. Over the years its worked out that she and Frank take over the V-berth while I sack out on the starboard pull out settee and my big dog sleeps on the cabin sole. Typically the only guests we seem to have anymore are our two adult nieces who delight in sleeping in the cockpit in bed rolls when we spend time together at Catalina Island. glyn Judson, E31 hull #55 Marina del Rey CA
Frank Langer
1984 Ericson 30+, Nanaimo, BC
Cooper,
Sleeping arrangements vary depending on body height/size, agility and sleeping preferences. On our E30+, I love the V-berth, but my wife gets claustrophobic due to a shortage of height there, even with the hatch open. So we lower the salon table which makes into a nice double bed, where she sleeps. She likes to sit and lean against that bulkhead to read before sleeping. If we have another couple on board, they get the V-berth and I join my wife in the salon double bed. My 6' 1" son likes the quarterberth, though it's a bit hard to get into and out of. If I decide to have a nap in the afternoon, I choose the starboard settee. We have had five sleep aboard for a one week cruise, though it was a bit cozy and everyone had to feel ok with being in close quarters.
Also, we had our cushions redone several years ago with closed cell foam inside, and then added 2" memory foam toppers for our V-berth and the salon double bed. That does improve comfort level there for longer trips.
Frank
Sleeping arrangements vary depending on body height/size, agility and sleeping preferences. On our E30+, I love the V-berth, but my wife gets claustrophobic due to a shortage of height there, even with the hatch open. So we lower the salon table which makes into a nice double bed, where she sleeps. She likes to sit and lean against that bulkhead to read before sleeping. If we have another couple on board, they get the V-berth and I join my wife in the salon double bed. My 6' 1" son likes the quarterberth, though it's a bit hard to get into and out of. If I decide to have a nap in the afternoon, I choose the starboard settee. We have had five sleep aboard for a one week cruise, though it was a bit cozy and everyone had to feel ok with being in close quarters.
Also, we had our cushions redone several years ago with closed cell foam inside, and then added 2" memory foam toppers for our V-berth and the salon double bed. That does improve comfort level there for longer trips.
Frank
Great input, Frank and Glyn-thanks! I also favor the starboard settee for naps. Good point about using the bulkhead at the galley for a backrest. I/we have found that the gaps from the cushions at the dinette are a bit tough to overcome. I think we'll have enough foom left to cover all bases (v-berth and dinette).
Frank Langer
1984 Ericson 30+, Nanaimo, BC
Cooper,
My wife rolls a small blanket into a tube and places it next to the cushion on the table, butting up against the table fiddle. That does a good job of holding the cushion in place. Also, the foam topper we place on top of the cushions when making up the double bed helps to hold it all together. Even with both of us sleeping there when we have guests, the cushions stay in place and there is no gap.
Frank
My wife rolls a small blanket into a tube and places it next to the cushion on the table, butting up against the table fiddle. That does a good job of holding the cushion in place. Also, the foam topper we place on top of the cushions when making up the double bed helps to hold it all together. Even with both of us sleeping there when we have guests, the cushions stay in place and there is no gap.
Frank
woolamaloo
Member III
For me, besides getting in and out of it, the most comfortable spot on my 30+ is in the starboard quarter berth. Of course, that's only for one person. But I hesitate to call it a "berth" anymore. It holds everything bulky. My wife and I slept in the dinette berth one time. I just wasn't comfortable. I literally had dreams about being tortured. It think it was mostly because the table fiddles pressed into parts of me all night. Of course a pad would work to alleviate that problem but I just found the space a little too short for me to invest in the pad. So, we sleep in the v-berth. I have a 4 inch thick memory foam pad that I cut down from a queen size bed that goes on top of the cushions. Queen fitted sheets on top of that. Nothing custom. They work fine and stay in place. The fiddles on the cutout cushion used to be a problem but I slipped a thin vinyl portfolio that holds charts between the cushion and the foam and it's fine now.
My wife is 5' and I'm 6' and we don't mind our feet touching when we sleep. She hates climbing into the v-berth and I don't love it. It's pretty high. I have a stool that I set out when she's on board.
I was always a little frustrated that I was never quite perfectly comfortable in the v-berth. I spend a significant number of nights on board in the summer and it just didn't seem long enough for me. Last spring, I took out the bulkhead at the fore of the v-berth to check something under the anchor locker. I left it out that night and my feet actually went into that opening a little bit and it was the most comfortable night I've ever spent on board. That bulkhead stayed out all year. I was finally truly comfortable. It will never go back in like it was before. I'm working on options.
I also like that the v-berth can stay made. I'd hate having to set up the dinette berth every night and break it down every morning. I give guests the choice and recommend they take the quarter berth. They choose that or the starboard settee. I've never had a couple on board and I've never had anyone else sleep in the dinette.
Unless I'm really serious about a nap, I'll just snooze in the starboard settee.
My wife is 5' and I'm 6' and we don't mind our feet touching when we sleep. She hates climbing into the v-berth and I don't love it. It's pretty high. I have a stool that I set out when she's on board.
I was always a little frustrated that I was never quite perfectly comfortable in the v-berth. I spend a significant number of nights on board in the summer and it just didn't seem long enough for me. Last spring, I took out the bulkhead at the fore of the v-berth to check something under the anchor locker. I left it out that night and my feet actually went into that opening a little bit and it was the most comfortable night I've ever spent on board. That bulkhead stayed out all year. I was finally truly comfortable. It will never go back in like it was before. I'm working on options.
I also like that the v-berth can stay made. I'd hate having to set up the dinette berth every night and break it down every morning. I give guests the choice and recommend they take the quarter berth. They choose that or the starboard settee. I've never had a couple on board and I've never had anyone else sleep in the dinette.
Unless I'm really serious about a nap, I'll just snooze in the starboard settee.
Frank Langer
1984 Ericson 30+, Nanaimo, BC
Jim,
I have also considered removing that bulkhead at the bow of the V-berth. I had thought of making that area useable for some kind of storage, but have never done so. I would be interested in any ideas or pictures you might eventually have if you decide to remove it altogether. I wonder if maybe someone else has already done so, either on the E30+ or on another model if it's similar.
Thanks,
Frank
I have also considered removing that bulkhead at the bow of the V-berth. I had thought of making that area useable for some kind of storage, but have never done so. I would be interested in any ideas or pictures you might eventually have if you decide to remove it altogether. I wonder if maybe someone else has already done so, either on the E30+ or on another model if it's similar.
Thanks,
Frank
Will one of you E-30+ sailors Please put your berth measurements into this on-going thread?
http://www.ericsonyachts.org/infoexchange/showthread.php?7721-Actual-Berth-Size
Attached is a jpeg image to mark up, and then u/l back here.
Thank you!
http://www.ericsonyachts.org/infoexchange/showthread.php?7721-Actual-Berth-Size
Attached is a jpeg image to mark up, and then u/l back here.
Thank you!
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sleeping quarters on the 30+
My son and I have spent a few nights on Discovery, he is 6' and I'm 5'8".
He is claustrophobic so the V-berth is out for him.
I love the V-berth but prefer sleeping in cockpit on warm summer evenings... I make up a little platform and cover up with a sleeping bag.
He tried the salon table but the edges of the table broke and he ended up on the floor.
This year I am going to re-enforce the underside of that table and look for a closed cell foam pad for him.
A good sail and a good sleep can not be beat.
Loren,
V-berth measurements.... I'll get them next weekend.
MJS
My son and I have spent a few nights on Discovery, he is 6' and I'm 5'8".
He is claustrophobic so the V-berth is out for him.
I love the V-berth but prefer sleeping in cockpit on warm summer evenings... I make up a little platform and cover up with a sleeping bag.
He tried the salon table but the edges of the table broke and he ended up on the floor.
This year I am going to re-enforce the underside of that table and look for a closed cell foam pad for him.
A good sail and a good sleep can not be beat.
Loren,
V-berth measurements.... I'll get them next weekend.
MJS
woolamaloo
Member III
Frank,
The only thing behind that bulkhead on my boat is the fitting that drains the anchor pan. It's completely unused space. I just left the panel leaning out of the way in the v-berth all season. Having the unfinished hole didn't bother me too much while I contemplated a solution but my wife called it "creepy." I'm considering doing something similar to what Shelman did in his e26 in the pictures in this post. Just as in that post, my anchor pan was leaking into the foredeck and the front of the v-berth. I've removed the pan and it's currently on deck while I work on other projects and I think about what I'm going to do. I have a brand new Fortress anchor that the PO left in the port settee which doesn't fit into the pan. I'd like the nice deep anchor locker and I like the idea of having easier access to the cleats and stanchions on the foredeck. If I glass a new bulkhead into the foredeck, I'll be sure to leave a little extra foot-room for the v-berth. I'll post pictures. Decision time is coming.
Frank Langer
1984 Ericson 30+, Nanaimo, BC
Hi Jim,
I'm not intending to "highjack" this thread on E30+ sleeping accommodations, but I think the bow locker is related, so hopefully no one will object.
I have done the anchor locker repair/rebedding you mentioned, and didn't find it too difficult. I store our Bruce anchor on a bow roller, and the rode fits nicely in the anchor locker, so I don't need a deeper locker pan. I would prefer to use the area under the anchor locker for storage--maybe my survival suit in summer and spinnaker in winter, or something similar. I'll have to think about whether it's worth making the change. I would still be interested if someone has made the change to accommodate more storage, rather than an anchor locker from the deck.
For tall sailors using the V-berth for sleeping, removing the forward bulkhead to increase foot space is a very reasonable option.
Thanks again, Jim. I'll be interested in how your job turns out!
Frank
I'm not intending to "highjack" this thread on E30+ sleeping accommodations, but I think the bow locker is related, so hopefully no one will object.
I have done the anchor locker repair/rebedding you mentioned, and didn't find it too difficult. I store our Bruce anchor on a bow roller, and the rode fits nicely in the anchor locker, so I don't need a deeper locker pan. I would prefer to use the area under the anchor locker for storage--maybe my survival suit in summer and spinnaker in winter, or something similar. I'll have to think about whether it's worth making the change. I would still be interested if someone has made the change to accommodate more storage, rather than an anchor locker from the deck.
For tall sailors using the V-berth for sleeping, removing the forward bulkhead to increase foot space is a very reasonable option.
Thanks again, Jim. I'll be interested in how your job turns out!
Frank