EMI issues

Alan Gomes

Sustaining Partner
I have had two sources of EMI/RFI on my boat that I just discovered recently. These had been affecting the reception on my VHF for years, I suppose. The reason it had not been obvious to me is that the VHF radio seemed to receive just fine. But what was happening is that the EMI was either clobbering the weaker signals so as to put them below the squelch threshold to where I didn't hear them at all, or in other cases it weakened the signals that came through, but which I simply assumed were just weak signals. It was affecting both my VHF handheld as well as the fixed-mount GX2200 unit.

I discovered the problem the same way in both cases: I just happened to switch off or remove the offending source right at the moment an affected signal happened to be coming over the VHF, and the difference became evident.

The first source, which I discovered last December, was my three MR-16 LED cabin lights. Not long after I got the boat in 2012, I replaced the lights over the table, galley, and by the quarterberth with MR-16s. These were off-the-shelf MR-16s from a non-marine source. Being 8+ years ago, I think the technology has advanced considerably, though perhaps I could have found "quiet" LED has I thought to look at the time. Anyway, I went to marinebeam.com and bought three of these babies. That seemed to take care of the problem, because switching them on and off made no difference as to any noise or effect on any signal, even weaker ones.

The other source, which I discovered while at Catalina last week, was coming from the two-port USB charger that plugs into the cigarette light plug, which I use to charge my cell phone, Kindle, and so forth. It looks like this:

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Here again, I just happened to switch off the power to my cigarette lighter plug and a weak station that was below the squelch suddenly appeared! So I was able to replicate the problem over and over by switching on and off the receptacle in the presence of just such signals. I have just purchased, but have not yet installed, this as a replacement. This is specifically a marine unit. According to the specs, this is supposed to be filtered "for reduced electronic intereference." My hope is that it is significantly reduced. I'll report back how it works after I've installed it.

It's amazing that I never observed the issue before, but I guess I never happened to switch this stuff of or on right when the VHF was doing something that would make me observe it. For signals that are loud enough I would not notice any difference.

Anyway, just a word to the wise. If you are using LED light or cigarette light chargers on your boat, you might want to look into this just to be sure.
 

KS Dave

Dastardly Villain
Blogs Author
Good write-up! So, did you replace your dome lights altogether at some point, or did your original domes have the MR-16s? Mine have a bayonet style bulb in them. I'm debating whether to completely replace them with a modern fixture or get LED replacement "bulbs" from MarineBeam and leave the retro look. The plastic lenses are getting pretty brittle, though...
 

David Grimm

E38-200
I had purchased one of the cheap gas station cig lighter usb chargers for my van. Literally couldn't listen to the am/fm radio while charging the phone. Eventually the unit caught fire in the Home Depot parking lot. Came out of the store just in time opend the door to electronic burning smell. Found that usb charger sizzling in it socket. Buyer beware!
 

1911tex

Sustaining Member
Good write-up! So, did you replace your dome lights altogether at some point, or did your original domes have the MR-16s? Mine have a bayonet style bulb in them. I'm debating whether to completely replace them with a modern fixture or get LED replacement "bulbs" from MarineBeam and leave the retro look. The plastic lenses are getting pretty brittle, though...
KS Dave: I replaced all mine with with LED's from MarineBeam. They have a descriptive page on their website for you to compare your original bulb shoes with the equivalent LED. Bright!! Less battery drain as well.
 

Alan Gomes

Sustaining Partner
Good write-up! So, did you replace your dome lights altogether at some point, or did your original domes have the MR-16s? Mine have a bayonet style bulb in them. I'm debating whether to completely replace them with a modern fixture or get LED replacement "bulbs" from MarineBeam and leave the retro look. The plastic lenses are getting pretty brittle, though...
These were put in three new fixtures. I still have some of the original cabin lights in other places.
 

Alan Gomes

Sustaining Partner
I had purchased one of the cheap gas station cig lighter usb chargers for my van. Literally couldn't listen to the am/fm radio while charging the phone. Eventually the unit caught fire in the Home Depot parking lot. Came out of the store just in time opend the door to electronic burning smell. Found that usb charger sizzling in it socket. Buyer beware!
The one I purchased (and shown in the photo) was not especially a cheapie. I researched and bought it specifically because of the current output for both ports. It definitely charges my phone faster than one of the gas station cheapies. However, I had not considered at all the question of EMI--obviously. So although it works just fine as a charger, it's no good on a boat.
 

nbolds442

Junior Member
Stray RF interference is so hard to find. I've spent days looking for it, and have access to ten of thousands of dollars worth of test equipment.
 
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