Guest viewing is limited

Mast Step Material

Nick J

Contributing Partner
Moderator
Blogs Author
The wood seems to be securely laminated against the bottom side of the TAFG but it sounds like there's a void between the vertical sides of the beam and the wood. The top is dry when I poke around the 4 holes, but the bottom is wet. The original motor also had some kind of catastrophic failure that resulted in its oil ending up in the bilge. The wood has been exposed to it for a while, so it's saturated in the exposed faces.

I'm going to do the Ericson fix with 3/4" pieces of g10 instead of the aluminum it calls for. This should be plenty strong and remove all possibility of corrosion. I should learn more about the status of the wood when I drill the holes for the through bolts.

I'm looking for any small wins i can at this point and I may have found one. The bilge had about a half gallon of fresh water in it today. I was only able to identify it because I cleaned it out and dried it when I removed the step. I traced the source back to a loose cold water fitting on the hot water heater. We left the water pump on accidently. Like I said, small win, but it's a win.
 

Nick J

Contributing Partner
Moderator
Blogs Author
Two boards and 3 holes = 6 hours. Not sure when I'm going to learn my lesson. At least the beam reinforcement is done (I still have to do the final leveling of the top, but I'm counting it done)

Even though it felt solid, 2 of the three holes had rotten wood. The vertical sections of the TAFG are about 1/2" thick, so I'm not sure how much it matters. I don't like rotten wood, so I'm glad I did the repair. I don't know if I'm just trying to justify the time and expense, but I do think the beam just hasn't been stressed with hard sailing yet. I don't plan on beating up the boat, but I want a solid mast step I don't need to worry about and I think I have it now.

Onward and upward! Next up, the spacer and mast shoe.

20250613_185252.jpg
20250613_185240.jpg
 

Prairie Schooner

Jeff & Donna, E35-3 purchased 7/21
Two boards and 3 holes = 6 hours. Not sure when I'm going to learn my lesson. At least the beam reinforcement is done (I still have to do the final leveling of the top, but I'm counting it done)

Even though it felt solid, 2 of the three holes had rotten wood. The vertical sections of the TAFG are about 1/2" thick, so I'm not sure how much it matters. I don't like rotten wood, so I'm glad I did the repair. I don't know if I'm just trying to justify the time and expense, but I do think the beam just hasn't been stressed with hard sailing yet. I don't plan on beating up the boat, but I want a solid mast step I don't need to worry about and I think I have it now.

Onward and upward! Next up, the spacer and mast shoe.

View attachment 53069
View attachment 53070
Great solution Nick. It probably wouldn't have occurred to me to sister it like that until I was three quarters of the way through ripping that section out.
 

bigd14

Sustaining Partner
Blogs Author
Looks great! I have another project idea for you- replace those rusting keel bolt washers. I found several of mine that looked very similar to your pics had decayed to the point of failure. It’s an easy enough job but needs to be done during a haulout.
 

Loren Beach

O34 - Portland, OR
Senior Moderator
Blogs Author
Looks great! I have another project idea for you- replace those rusting keel bolt washers. I found several of mine that looked very similar to your pics had decayed to the point of failure. It’s an easy enough job but needs to be done during a haulout.
FWIW, decades ago, when we dropped and re-bedded our keel, the factory round washers looked perfect and were reused. Other owners of sister ships have indeed installed thicker and larger diameter ss washers when they did the same keel work. If you're already in the yard and doin' it, probably best to upsize them at the same time.
 

Nick J

Contributing Partner
Moderator
Blogs Author
Great solution Nick. It probably wouldn't have occurred to me to sister it like that until I was three quarters of the way through ripping that section out.
I don't think I would have thought of this either, but there's a good document in the resource section from Ericson detailing the repair. I just used g10 instead of aluminum.

Keel bolts / washers would be nice to do now, but I'm not out of the water and I need to draw the line somewhere. Our keel joint is water tight, so i think this is one can i can kick down the road.
 

Nick J

Contributing Partner
Moderator
Blogs Author
The can of worms has been mostly sealed and the mast step is back in the boat. I ended up replacing everything including the plate, riser, shoe, and fasteners. Just like every other project on the boat, I underestimated the amount of work, time, and cost of this "while you're at it" project. Ultimately, I'm really happy with how it turned out and I don't' think I'll have to worry about the step again.

20250703_103926.jpg

I thought I was going to be able to drill all the holes and machine the bevel on the plate myself with my table top drill press and router table. I tried beveling the edge of the original 6061 plate, but my bit just chattered and made a horrible noise regardless of the feed rate I used. If I wasn't able to bevel 6061, the new 7075 plate was going to be a no-go. I found another local machine shop that had some time and was excited to help out. They were reasonably priced and had a good working relationship with a local metal finishing shop. The machine shop warned me that the plater could take up to 2 weeks to finish the plate, but they ended up turning it around in 2 days after the machine work was done. Having it professionally done turned out to be the right decision because all 12 holes lined up perfectly with the original holes in the TAFG.




20250623_174500.jpg20250623_174518.jpg


The spacer was a little more challenging. I thought I would be efficient and purchase a 2" piece of G10, but quickly realized that was a poor decision when I placed it next to my template routing bit and it was 1/4" too short. I called around to a few fabrication shops and none of them wanted anything to do with G10. Even the boat yard I'm working at didn't want to use their equipment. I ended up buying a few carbide blades for my reciprocating saw and hacking away at it until it was close to the desired shape. I then attached to original shoe and finished the edge on a table top belt sander. It created a massive mess that was only slightly mitigated with my dust extractor. Fortunately, I did it outside and wore a mask. G10 is amazing stuff, but working with it is a major pain in the ass.

20250623_212101.jpg


the shoe was only 3/4" thick, so I was able to rough cut it with a carbide blade made for Hardie siding in my jig saw then template route it on my router table. The result was an almost perfect match to the original shoe. It did require a little bit of finish sanding to fit in the mast, but it only took about 10 minutes.

20250623_211658.jpg

With all the pieces cut out and the holes drilled, I wanted to improve drainage to reduce the amount of water that flowed over the plate and under the cabin sole. The goal is to route water to a central hole in the plate where it can drip directly into the bilge. I used my 3D printer to create w router template that provided a 1 degree slope and laid out a pattern that should provide a path for the the water to find it's way to the middle hole.
20250701_194904.jpg
20250702_090937.jpg20250702_082803.jpg


At this point, the step looked great, but I really didn't' want the standard G10 color in the middle of the cabin, so I dyed the parts black with RIT DyeMore. It's far from perfect, but I don't think anyone's going to notice.

The final step was installing a coin. Up until I read this thread: https://ericsonyachts.org/ie/threads/coin-under-the-mast.22004/#post-180830, I was just going to throw the coin in before the mast was stepped and allow it to float around. I used another 3d printed router template to route out a pocket, then filled the pocket with clear epoxy. We chose a Canadian toonie because we love the Canadian Gulf islands and my kinds think "toonie" is a funny name.

20250702_214752.jpg

I ran into one hiccup when I was at the boat yesterday to do the final install. The drain hole ended up landing right on top of the new sistered G10 plate. Of course, I didn't have my Dremel and I really didn't want to remove the plate again, so I drilled a hole then used a multitool with a metal cutting blade to create a small notch in the top of the plate. again, not perfect, but it should do the trick.

20250703_093435.jpg

With this project done, everything is ready to put the mast back in the boat next week.
 

Nick J

Contributing Partner
Moderator
Blogs Author
The mast went in last Friday and we were able to test it out last night. My rigger, who was at the business end of the mast when it went in, said the shoe fit perfectly. I'm certainly biased after spending so much time and money on this project, but I'm convinced the new rig and step make a huge difference.

The first sail was 15-20 knots and we took it conservatively with head sail only. The rig was rock solid. No more slack leeward shrouds. The mast stayed in column and didn't show any signs of pumping in the conditions. It probably has more to do with a properly tensioned rig than a new mast step, but at least I know we're starting with a good foundation.
 

tenders

Innocent Bystander
We are going to need to have a thread for boat projects that have involved 3D printed parts. This is not an area in which I have any familiarity but I’m waiting with high expectations for one to arrive from a company called Elegoo (Centauri Carbon).

The use of the printer to create a router template to carve sloped drain channels in a G10 plate is brilliant, IMO.
 

Nick J

Contributing Partner
Moderator
Blogs Author
Thanks for the comments. My wife definitely rolled her eyes when I said I purchased a 3D printer for the rerig project, but I think it provided a lot of value. I was going to post it here, but I think starting a new thread is a good idea:


The Elegoo printer looks like an awesome choice. I would have probably gone with it if it was available at the time I made my purchase. I'm really happy with the Bambu P1S though and the price has started to come back down.
 
Top