1984 Ericson 30+ table wanted

[AJdeR]

Does anyone know where I might find a replacement cabin table top for my 84 30+, or design drawings/sketches?
Even some detail photos would help. I know they were teak and some or all had a full length hinge so that the starboard side could fold down and leave more passageway space. Perhaps there are design improvements some owners have developed that I should consider. I do have the pedestal pieces.

 

[Frank Langer]

Does anyone know where I might find a replacement cabin table top for my 84 30+, or design drawings/sketches?
Even some detail photos would help. I know they were teak and some or all had a full length hinge so that the starboard side could fold down and leave more passageway space. Perhaps there are design improvements some owners have developed that I should consider. I do have the pedestal pieces.

It might help to post pics of the pedestal so we can see if ours is a match. If so, I could send you some pics and take measurements.
Frank

 

[bigd14]

I don’t know if this is original but it looks like it. Just big enough to be functional, folds up to allow access and is easily removable with a friction fit post when you want to convert the dinette to a sleeping area. I can get measurements next week if you like (probably about 14 x 28).

 

[Prairie Schooner]

I don’t know if this is original but it looks like it. Just big enough to be functional, folds up to allow access and is easily removable with a friction fit post when you want to convert the dinette to a sleeping area. I can get measurements next week if you like (probably about 14 x 28).

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That's nice with the lee bumpers (correct term?) on one side but opening up with flat edges. Very versatile.

 

[bigd14]

lee bumpers (correct term?)

I have not heard that term, but I like it. I have always heard them called fiddles, but maybe that term is referring to the taller ones on counters.

 

[Prairie Schooner]

I have not heard that term, but I like it. I have always heard them called fiddles, but maybe that term is referring to the taller ones on counters.

I'd forgotten the term 'fiddles', Doug. Better to stay traditional. I just make stuff up sometimes.

 

[AJdeR]

Thanks guys. Frank’s table looks like others I’ve seen in for sale postings and his pedestal is the same as mine. The design in bigd14’s boat is certainly interesting though the pedestal is different. Is the top not easily removable and repositioned for conversion to a bed?
I can post photos of the pedestal over the weekend. As bought recently there’s an ugly piece of plywood in place and a 9 or 10” foam mattress creating a comfortable but intrusive bed.

 

[peaman]

Is the top not easily removable and repositioned for conversion to a bed?

With a telescoping post, a correctly sized table, when fully lowered, should fit in place level with the adjacent seating and supported by the provided cleats on the face of each section of seating. At least that's the way the 32-3 is and it is common on other boats. When lowered into place, the table should fill the space created by the three sections of seating, and the post, along with the cleats at the edges of the seating, should provide support for that portion of the "bed" thereby created.

 

[Frank Langer]

Thanks guys. Frank’s table looks like others I’ve seen in for sale postings and his pedestal is the same as mine. The design in bigd14’s boat is certainly interesting though the pedestal is different. Is the top not easily removable and repositioned for conversion to a bed?
I can post photos of the pedestal over the weekend. As bought recently there’s an ugly piece of plywood in place and a 9 or 10” foam mattress creating a comfortable but intrusive bed.

If yours looks like mine the table top lifts off the pedestal. There are bolts at the top and bottom that can be tightened/loosened to make removal easier. Once the top is removed, remove the pedestal and place it on the floor. Place the table top on the flanges, then place a rear cushion on top to make a double bed level with the seat cushions. We had a foamy made to put on top for extra comfort.
Frank

 

[bigd14]

Mine is a bit different. The part of the settee that would normally sit against the forward bulkhead was removed or more likely was never installed from the factory. When I got the boat a poorly installed bulkhead heater was there (you can see the scorch marks). There is a fold out section of Formica covered plywood on a piano hinge that fits under the outboard cushion. You remove the table and pedestal, drop the fiddle which is held in place with a barrel lock and swing open the “leaf” which rests on a small bracket on the forward bulkhead and one on the aft portion of the settee and creates a full size double berth. The starboard cushion then fits on the open leaf. I don’t have any good photos but you can sort of see the arrangement if you look closely. I’m not sure if this was a factory option or an aftermarket addition but I suspect factory based on its appearance. So the table is not part of the bed and can thus be any size. I like this arrangement a lot as it gives a lot of space in an otherwise small cabin. In practice it requires a lot of moving of cushions and the loss of the starboard settee as a sleeping area but once in place it’s very comfortable. On my 34, the table is enormous and even with the leaf removed makes moving through the cabin and getting into the settee very difficult.

 

[AJdeR]

Mine is a bit different. The part of the settee that would normally sit against the forward bulkhead was removed or more likely was never installed from the factory. When I got the boat a poorly installed bulkhead heater was there (you can see the scorch marks). There is a fold out section of Formica covered plywood on a piano hinge that fits under the outboard cushion. You remove the table and pedestal, drop the fiddle which is held in place with a barrel lock and swing open the “leaf” which rests on a small bracket on the forward bulkhead and one on the aft portion of the settee and creates a full size double berth. The starboard cushion then fits on the open leaf. I don’t have any good photos but you can sort of see the arrangement if you look closely. I’m not sure if this was a factory option or an aftermarket addition but I suspect factory based on its appearance. So the table is not part of the bed and can thus be any size. I like this arrangement a lot as it gives a lot of space in an otherwise small cabin. In practice it requires a lot of moving of cushions and the loss of the starboard settee as a sleeping area but once in place it’s very comfortable. On my 34, the table is enormous and even with the leaf removed makes moving through the cabin and getting into the settee very difficult.

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Oh, I see, that's interesting, how the fold out is the same shape as the opposite cushion, but what do you mean by 'the fiddle'?
Mine is hull 657, so was probably in the factory at the same time as yours.

 

[bigd14]

The fiddle is the board that runs along the front edge of the settee to keep the cushion in place. Usually they are fixed in place but this one is on a hinge and folds down so the “leaf” can open and sit flush. In this zoom of the previous photo the fiddle is in the down position. You can see how it swings down from the scrape left by the end of the barrel bolt which is on front of the fiddle, but not visible here.

 

[Christian Williams]

Frank's photo (Post #2) looks like traditional Ericson.

This blog entry may apply. I think you could make the tabletop out of plywood, covered with teak or mahogany laminate and varnished. Do note my theory of fiddles, which contains any spilled gin so you can lap it back up.

E381 - Revised Cabin Table, New Upholstery

A cabin table that doubles as a conversion platform for a double berth needs to fill the space. I find that makes for an overlarge table which inhibits access to the banquette. My spouse disagrees, so maybe it's a personal thing. I was going to...

ericsonyachts.org

 

[AJdeR]

Here's a pic of my pedestal

Frank's photo (Post #2) looks like traditional Ericson.

This blog entry may apply. I think you could make the tabletop out of plywood, covered with teak or mahogany laminate and varnished. Do note my theory of fiddles, which contains any spilled gin so you can lap it back up.

E381 - Revised Cabin Table, New Upholstery

A cabin table that doubles as a conversion platform for a double berth needs to fill the space. I find that makes for an overlarge table which inhibits access to the banquette. My spouse disagrees, so maybe it's a personal thing. I was going to...

ericsonyachts.org

More of a proven theory, I suspect.