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Coolant Conundrum/Exhaust Riser Replacement [Master Thread]

Kenneth K

1985 32-3, Puget Sound
Blogs Author
Yeah, Jeff, I agree with Pete.

Since you never had a separate, pressurized, accumulation/expansion tank as part of your system, I wouldn't add one now. And, if you did, then you'd still need to vent it to a non-pressurized coolant recovery tank (a 3rd tank).

Sounds like all you need to do is replace your old, vented, coolant recovery tank with a new, albeit better looking, one.
 

Prairie Schooner

Jeff & Donna, E35-3 purchased 7/21
Overflow Tank
I still felt like I was missing something. Digging around, my current understanding is as follows:

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The introduction of overflow tanks, their pressurization, and increasing system complexity is for: reducing the amount of coolant sprayed into the environment, reducing the need to add coolant after any overflow, reducing the frequency with which we need to monitor coolant levels, adapting to higher performance engines, and greater system efficiency.

Pressure on the coolant raises its boiling point. Some formulae state every psi raises the boiling temp of a typical mix by three degrees, giving a wider protection band.

Normal operation involves the coolant expanding with heat to fill the OF tank. As it cools, it sucks fluid back in. This reduces the accumulation of air in the system.

Engine designers specify the correct pressure rating for the cap based on system components and configuration. Go by what the manual says.

OF tanks work by pressure differentials, not gravity. They don't need to be mounted above the manifold coolant tank. Ideally the tank should be mounted so the cold fluid level is roughly even with the manifold coolant cap. If much higher and vented (unpressurized), when the manifold tank is opened gravity could make the manifold tank overflow.

Accumulation tanks are a further sophistication of the system. I don't think there should be multiple pressure caps in a system. Steven's cap wired shut reinforces this notion. (post # 67) If there are, each pressure should take into account the stacking of caps. I'm not sure how, but we don't have multiples so I didn't research that.

Our systems are relatively simple compared to modern automobiles, but are perfectly adequate for our needs. I don't need to add extra complexity.

Much of this is a recap of what had already been discussed in this thread. If I'm wrong on any of it, please correct me. It's an unfolding mystery.

These references were especially helpful.



Various opinions on mount location for OF tank:
 

peaman

Sustaining Member
To add to your nearly comprehensive summary, an elevated accumulation tank as I seem to have, is also recommended if coolant circulates through anything, such as a water heater or cabin heater, above the engine manifold. My water heater coil is quite low, so I’m not sure of the rational for my remote tank. But it does facilitate maintenance of coolant level.
 
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