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  1. Solarken

    Help! Survived Hilary 2023, But worse for wear.

    I’m going to drop this link here. Anyone who will pass it on or help it’s much appreciated. Storms are a part of boating but here it’s been 83 years since one like this hit. Thank you for reading and sharing! https://gofund.me/5d919de2 Please help us out of this jamb, Thank You
  2. trbowden

    17kg (37.7lb) FOB HP Anchor for Sale - Certified as "High Holding Power"

    Never used 17kg (37.7lb) FOB HP Anchor for Sale - retail $320 - asking $125 I purchased it as a second storm anchor - it will hold a battleship in a hurricane... https://www.lindemann-kg.de/en/products/5/Anker/FOB%20H.P.%20Anker The FOB HP is certified as "High Holding Power" by the french...
  3. D

    E29 Anchoring

    Greetings, I am new to this forum. I am interested to upgrade the anchoring system on our E29. At present we have a Danforth anchor and are hopeful to add a Rocna or Bruce with a manual windlass and the appropriate amount of chain for the system. Our Danforth has served us well in sheltered...
  4. Denise McDonald

    Anchors .... ?

    **Cross posted on Ericson FB pages so apologies if you've read this on social media** Greetings all, I have an anchor question. Our E27 is moored in a 28 foot slip and our marina is VERY strict about overhang, whether from the pulpit or the stern. We want to get a new, much bigger anchor and...
  5. D

    For sale: Like New Maxwell RC6-8 1000w Windlass

    Bought but decided to go with manual windlass. Amazing condition. $750 OBO. Located in South Florida. I can be reached at 5616322135. Correction: Maxwell 8-6RC
  6. M

    SoCal Anchor Choice

    Hello all, This my first post after becoming the proud new owner of my 1971 Ericson 32-2 Hull #188! Of course, as with any new (to me) boat, there are so many projects that I have planned and even more waiting to show themselves in the future; but as my objective is to get cruising around the...
  7. M

    Bow Anchor Roller on E28+

    Wondering if anyone has experience with mounting an anchor roller on an E28+. There doesn't seem to be any room to work with, as the lifeline stanchion bases are pretty much directly behind the forestay. The anchor locker is too shallow for anything other than a Danforth, and I'd really like...
  8. M

    Asymetrical Spinnaker for 1986 38-200, and anchor?

    G'day fellow E boat owners, I am new to this group being that I recently purchased a 1986 38-200 here in Bermuda. I would like to ask about any information or experiences that other owners have had with regularly using asymmetrical spinnakers, for ex. bowsprit, is it a must, if so where could I...
  9. Cory B

    Rocna Anchor/Roller Pics?

    Hi all, Does anyone have any pictures or experience with putting a Rocna 33 on the bow of an 80's Ericson 34/35/38 (I think they all have the same anchor/stemhead fitting)? We currently have a Delta 35 which thru-bolts in the anchor fitting which I like, and the thick bolt conveniently...
  10. R

    Example of alternate windlass install and chain storage for E38-200

    I read all the windlass posts (including the amazing well done recent installations!) We took a slightly different approach. Our new-to-us E38-200 came with a manual windlass (which was well maintained and works fine for us) and the standard chain locker. The windlass was positioned on the...
  11. L

    Anchor SuperMax

    I'm very happy with my new Manson Supreme anchor and no longer have room on my bow for the SuperMax. This is a SuperMax Rigid Anchor, Model 15HD. It weighs 36 lbs. and is sized for up to a 15,000 lbs displacement boat. The anchor retails for $490. This is a heavily built anchor with exceptional...
  12. C

    Anchor ideas for '87 E32-3

    Greetings: I am looking for ideas on the best way to upgrade my anchor system. Below is a synopsis of what I have and what I want. -Two danforth style anchors of different size; one approx. 15-20lb. and one 30-40lb. for storm anchor. -Simple anchor roller w/o chain stop. Uses port and...
  13. DanielW

    E28 - Anchor set up - Double bow roller

    Hey there Anyone set up a double anchor roller on an E-28? Space is a wee bit tight but I'm sure it can be done. Before I hit the drawing board I was wondering if anyone else had sage advice, experiences to share, photos etc. My current primary is a 15kg CQR, which is really a bit too...
  14. L

    Manson Supreme Anchor

    I'm thinking about getting a 35# Manson Supreme anchor but not sure how well it'll fit on my bow roller. Any owners of a 35-3 or similar with a Manson Supreme hanging off the bow? Would appreciate any feedback. Thanks!
  15. C

    Ever Use A Bruce Anchor?

    I just got a bruce anchor and wonder how well they work. Would love to hear you think about these strange looking anchors.
  16. S

    E34 Anchor Bow Roller

    I am seeking some ideas for a bow roller on the E34T. I've attached a pic below of the current set up. Given that the roller would be offset around the stem fitting, I am thinking to relocate the existing running lights to the pulpit railing which would leave room for many off the shelf roller...
  17. F

    How to remove anchor locker, rebed bow fittings?

    Hi, I want to rebed the bow pulpit and cleats, and can't really get at them from the underside due to the anchor locker being in the way. There is very little space between the anchor locker and the hull to get my hand and a wrench in there to the underside of the deck. I am thinking it...
  18. D

    Need an E26 Anchor Locker Hatch Cover

    I've just bought a 1988 E-26 and need a replacement anchor-locker hatch cover. Any ideas where I might find one? Don Calcote (donc3317@gmail.com):esad:
  19. A

    Anchor rode locker for Ericson 27

    I have purchased an Ericson 27 and I would like to know if anyone has put a hatch in the deck at the bow to store anchor rode in the little space that is in front of the vberth. I would like to have my anchor and rode accessible at the bow in case of emergencies. An anchor probably would not...
  20. Bolo

    LED Anchor light

    I have an E-32 III (1987) and am thinking about changing the "standard" anchor light with a low draw LED light, preferably one that will replace the current incandescent type bulb Has anyone done this yet and if so what LED bulb did you use or is a completely new fixture required? I'm not...
  21. A

    Where to keep anchor rode on an Ericson 27?

    Our Ericson 27 came with two anchors, the smaller of which has an attached short length of some light chain and has a matching mount on the bow pulpit. They were just sort of chilling in random lockers in the boat. There was also a container with a longish length of twisted anchor rode with a...
  22. U

    Anchor Windlass for E35-2

    Has anyone had any experience of the South Pacific vertical Anchor windlass? I am about to run the cables to the peak of my E35-2 and like the idea that these units with their spur gears are not so power hungry as the conventional worm driven type. so I could save a bit on cable size. or, what...
  23. J

    anchor locker leak

    Hi Everyone, I am currently about to buy a 1983 35III. We had the survey yesturday and found the front bulkhead (just below the anchor locker) is completely rotten and needs to be replaced. It looks like the anchor locker/deck joint failed and has allowed water to drip onto the bulkhead for...
  24. Andy Schildhorn

    Anchor Chain

    WIth my Ericson 35 I have 125' of anchor chain. Seems like alot and very heavy. Any ideas of what is ideal? I am thinking that is a lot of extra weight in the bow and affecting sail performance.
  25. B

    Anchor Locker

    Has anyone made an anchor locker in a E-29 ?? bring@rochester.rr.com
  26. Bolo

    "U" on Anchor roller

    Had an email request from another owner about the S/S "U" I had welded onto my anchor roller on my E-32 III (1987) a while back. So I thought I'd post it here for all to see. This set up works quite well for me when flying our a sail. I use to use an ATN "Tacker" (I think it's called) around...
  27. CSMcKillip

    Stupid question: anchor locker location

    Ok, for the life of me I can not remember if our boat has an anchor storage compartment on the front of the boat????? I searched all of my photos and didn't see one, can someone help me out.
  28. ChrisS

    Anchor chain sources--US or Chinese

    After losing my anchor and chain last fall, I'm looking for 50' of 5/16th HT chain, and am trying to get a better price than the WM $4.25 a foot. Most of the stuff I am seeing sold on eBay comes from China. One seller claims that almost all chain is sourced from China these days, and that...
  29. B

    1981 E38 anchor locker / bow cleats advice w/pictures

    1981 E38 anchor locker / bow cleats advice (PICTURES) So as most projects go I started this with the intent of finishing in a day. I wanted to replace the forward bow cleats and re-bed all forward hardware. The PO has installed a custom aluminum bracket under the weak anchor pan. He wanted it...
  30. K

    Anchor Locker Drainage!

    It seems that part of my problem with water intrusion via the anchor locker was due to a cracked bronze pipe fitting that is supposed to hold the drain tube that exits water from the anchor locker out through the bow. The crack, in fact severed the tube leaving not enough area to properly hold...
  31. T

    Anchor Locker 32-3

    Has anyone removed the anchor locker pan? I want to reseal and re-bed it and some cleats, bow rail, etc. and just like to know anyone else's experience. Also, the drain is in the bottom and I'd assume it drains into the bilge? Thanks
  32. K

    anchor cleat mounting E 27

    Hello, I have an E 27 and want to mount an anchor cleat/samson post of some sort on the bow deck. With a proper sized (12"?) backing plate underneath, is there any reason this area of deck could not handle that kind of strain? I was wondering if I would need to also run a cable or chain from...
  33. R

    Wanted used anchor: Fortress X 23 or Rocna 20 kg

    We are looking for used anchors: a Fortress X 23 [as a stern hook] and a Rocna 20kg or a Manson Supreme 44lb. [ as a main anchor] for our E 38 berthed in Ventura CA. Respond to robert-baron@uiowa.edu.
  34. T

    Anchor locker

    Does anyone know which models came with an anchor locker on the bow? We have some repair work to do on the bow area and thought about putting in an anchor locker at the same time.
  35. davisr

    plow anchor for E25-E27

    Would have posted this question on the recent discussion regarding the Anchor Poll thread. Since this is a specific question, though, I have chosen this format. I am outfitting my E25 for modest coastal cruising and know that it would be smart to include a plow-type anchor in my anchor inventory...
  36. J

    E-38 forward anchor hatch

    Currently installing a windless and decided to paint the hatch underside. So i removed the hatch and noticed some excess moisture dripping from the edge and decided to do some investigative work only to fine the balsa core soaked. my question is, does this hatch require a core product for...
  37. S

    Anchor Chain

    Anyone know where the best price for anchor chain might be? Need 150 feet of 5/16 G 40 for a Lewmar Pro 1000.
  38. F

    Securing anchor on bow roller

    I have a Bruce anchor which sits nicely on the bow roller while we sail. I drilled a 3/8" hole through it to allow us to put a stainless steel bolt through it and the bow roller to hold it in place so it didn't accidently drop off the bow roller in heavier seas. But the bolt doesn't keep it...
  39. Gmilburn

    E29 Anchor Locker Thru Deck

    Hi all, I'm wanting to mount my anchor on the outside of my E29 bow pulpit and lead the anchor line into the front bow locker. However unless I use the front fresh air cowl opening, I will need to cut a hole and mount some sort of hardware or access port. Any ideas on how to do it and what...
  40. P

    Anchor at Island White?

    Have any of you SoCal Ericsons anchored overnight at Island White in Long Beach Harbor? It looks like the recommended spot is right off the man-made waterfall on the island. I'd be swinging from a single hook (all I have for now) so hopefully wind and swells will line up, if there are any...
  41. Tom Metzger

    Claw anchor

    Will a Claw or Bruce 33 lb anchor fit on the bow roller of an E-32-3 or PS/E-333?
  42. C

    E35II Anchor and Roller

    Well.... the Dockfather and I were sittin round on a cold day havin an Ale and took a good look at the Weenie 20LB Danforth Anchor and Pathetic Factory Light Duty Roller on the Boat :cool: Figured its time for a Real OffShore Anchor and Roller. Like the 35LB CQR or Delta Plow with Custom Roller...
  43. Sven

    How do you drop anchor ?

    Ok, my question is a bit more specific than that :-) We have a manual windlass, with a horizontal capstan and drum (wish I had a picture to describe it better). You lift anchor by using a lever/bar that lifts the anchor on both directions of the stroke and I think there are two gears...
  44. Sven

    Tricolor and anchor light

    When we have the standing rigging replaced we'll also have a tricolor and anchor light installed at the masthead. Since we'll be going broke paying someone to be up there anyway we might as well take care of some of the nav light issues at the same time :-D I'm looking for recommendations...
  45. M

    Racing Anchor System

    Hi all, I am curious if any racers out there have slick, light weight system for anchoring during a race. We have a "human windlass" (he's a former semi-pro defensive lineman), but he is starting to complain about having to pull the 25 lb plow and 30' of 3/8 chain two or three times in one...
  46. J

    Ericson 35 anchor setup

    We recently purched a 1987 Ericson 35 Mk 3. She is a beautiful boat and well designed accept for the anchor setup.We have a very large and shallow anchor well with a knotch on the starboard side for the rode to exit the well, which seams a bit odd since the bow roller is in the proper location...
  47. CWM

    E27 anchor roller

    Hopefully, this post will give someone some ideas. The attached photos show the anchor roller setup on my 1973 E27. The roller is a WindLine AR-3 model: http://www.windline.com/diagram.html Re: the below deck photo of the backing plates: The large blue piece is 3/8" fiberglass. The SS square...
  48. S

    How to Rust a New Anchor

    I need to take a new galvanized anchor across the Border into Mexico. But it has to look used and cheap so I don't get sunk with an import VAT. Yes, you read right - and it weighs 80# - so I can't exactly hide it in with my T-shirts and socks. If you don't have tears in your eyes from...
  49. D

    anchor locker cover

    Hello all, I have an ericson 30+ 1980, the anchor locker on deck has a hole in it where the anchor chain exits, this oval shaped hole had a cover/cap over it approx. 4" X 3" in diameter, looked like stainless steel. I dropped it overboard accidentally and cannot find it! ugh! Any advice on...
  50. Shadowfax

    Anchor Light

    Noticed last weekend that the anchor light has burned out on my "88 E34. does anyone know off hand if that is a iney or an outie bulb end to save me a trip up the mast with the wrong bulb. thanks
  51. S

    Mounting Claw-type anchor

    I have a 1979 Ericson 29 and I have been using a Danforth anchor but would prefer to swith to a claw-type anchor. There is no bow roller on the boat and it appears that it would be difficult to install one given the configuration at the bow. Has anyone done this? Or is there an alternate way to...
  52. C

    Masthead Anchor Light

    I want to replace the anchor light on my 1990 Ericson 38 with an LED. Before I go up the mast does anyone know what bulb is likely to be there so I can buy the right LED replacement before going aloft?
  53. J

    E38 Anchor Locker Challenge

    Hello All, My E38 is set up with an electric windlass and all chain rode. The challenge is that when the chain is coming in, it piles up on itself after it drops into the locker and tends to bind up the windlass. So, when weighing anchor we have to open up the v-berth and station someone down...
  54. D

    E-27 anchor roller/bowsprit

    :egrin:Anybody done an anchor roller on an E-27? Any ideas about bow sprits? Teak? Stainless? 2 anchors? Mike & Cheri McNulty
  55. V

    Anchor line bitter end attachment point

    Hi Sailors, I have recently purchased a 1984 Ericson 30 + and it is a great little boat. We are getting ready for the spring raft up season here in San Diego and while going over my anchoring gear I found that there is no attachment point for the bitter end of the line. The boat is loaded...
  56. G

    Anchor Locker Flooding

    Hi I recently bought a 1984 35ft Mark III. During heavy rain the anchor locher floods, clearly I have a blockage in the drain for the locker. Has anyone solved this problem before, if so any quick tips to share with a very excited new boat owner. Thanks Gibbo
  57. G

    I need an anchor lock.

    All, This is the first time to add an image so bear with me. I need a bronze anchor lock and am having the Devil of a time locating one. My hope is that with this image attached (crossing my fingers), I can stir one of you to reply with the whereabouts of one. I've tried all the obvious...
  58. G

    Looking for an anchor lock.

    All, I'm coming to the list for some collective help. I'm looking for a U-shaped bronze anchor lock that'll bolt to my teak anchor platform. It's the type with a horizontal 1/4 " or 3/8" stainless pin that engages in the shank or shackle of the anchor to keep it stowed on deck. All searches...
  59. G

    Anchor poll

    I think it would be useful to have a database of anchors Ericson owners have used, and how successful they have been. Beyond the poll itself, useful information to post would be the type of bottom in your area, if you use a different anchor for different bottoms, the size anchor you use for...
  60. R

    Re-bedding Anchor Chain Locker

    This weekend, I’m going to re-bed the anchor chain locker in my E26. I assume that the locker has a flange which is screwed into the recess in the deck. I’m pretty sure I have access to the back “wall” of the anchor chain locker through an access port that’s been installed in the teak bulkhead...
  61. L

    Problem With Anchor Locker Bulkhead

    My anchor locker pan stiffening project continues to grow more complicated. Removal of the anchor locker pan yielded great access to the chain locker and the underside of the deck hardware. It also allowed a good inspection of the bulkhead dividing the v-berth from the chain locker. An obvious...
  62. L

    Reinforcing Anchor Locker Pan

    The floor of the anchor locker pan on my E35-3 flexes whenever I crank on the manual windlass that I have installed inside the anchor locker. I've been wanting to reinforce it as well as rebed it, since I have some leaks there. I also wanted access to the underside of the bow pulpit and bow...
  63. Mindscape

    What's back there - Anchor Locker

    While staring at down into my anchor locker on my '85 32-3 after cleaning it out this weekend I began to wonder what might be under there. Then I began to wonder how would I ever rebed the bow pulpit. So I thought I'd ask if anyone here has ever removed the anchor locker on a 32-3 or been able...
  64. R

    Anchor Windlass

    I've read the many threads on this subject. I intend to replace the horizontal Simpson Lawrence manual windlass mounted just aft of the anchor locker on our 1989 E34 with a power windlass. The manual works fine but is difficult to operate while tailing the chain, really needing a second person...
  65. Bolo

    Spongy anchor locker door

    The saga continues...with the needed repairs of our new "old" 32-3. The anchor locker door is wet and spongy when walked on. A condition that I knew about during survey. I've rebuilt a rudder on a Hunter 285 (our old boat) so I'm not a stranger to ripping into a part of the boat. But it...
  66. Jeff Meier

    Fortress FX-23 anchor or sale

    this is brand new, never been assembled or used. local vendors want about $280, discount online places want about $240, I'll take $180.
  67. B

    best anchor for a 29

    Good morning what is the best size and type of anchor for an Ericson 29 for cruising in the Pacific Northwest? A danforth of medium size is presently on our new(used) boat. How important is it to keep the bow quite light? Our past experience with a danforth was not good in as much as with a...
  68. 1973E29 TUG

    Boat Swings Wildly at Anchor in a breeze

    I dont know if anyone else has noticed their boat swing around a lot while at anchor in a moderate to heavy breeze. It seems that other boats in the same anchorage lie relatively calmly into the wind while our Ericson 29 is pacing back and fourth like a spooked horse. Watching the boat for...
  69. L

    Reinforcing the Anchor Locker

    This spring I installed a vertical windlass in the anchor locker on my E35-3. The rode drops down into the forepeak. Everything works great but the floor of the ancor locker seems flimsy and moves up and down when I crank hard on the windlass. Has anyone beefed up one of these anchor lockers...
  70. Mikebat

    Install a windlass on my anchor locker hatch?

    Check this message in another thread: http://www.ericsonyachts.org/infoexchange/showpost.php?p=9967&postcount=2 The last photo in that post, the one with all the Vikings standing on the dock, shows an Ericson in the foreground that seems to have a windlass installed in the forepeak anchor...
  71. E

    Bayliner anchor line measurement system

    My wife works with a women who along with her husband own a bayliner 45. Over the weekend of April 23/24 these folks went cruising, on the way home, the skipper decided he needed to mark his anchor line so he could tell how much rode he had out, when anchoring (good idea right?). Now most of...
  72. Sven

    The world's most beautiful anchor roller

    Not only was it a stunning piece of stainless steel workmanship, it also looked utterly functional. I bet it cost much more than our boat and it definitely added a few pounds to the bow, but it is still something to drool over. I posted a set of pictures of it at...
  73. G

    Anchor line splices

    I'm replacing an anchor line and am interested in some feedback as to the best way to splice the 3-strand nylon rode to the chain. I have found two very different methods of splicing and would like to know which (if either) is superior. Method one calls for basically creating an eye splice...
  74. mark reed

    E38 anchor windlass

    There has been some recent discussion of anchor windlasses on the E38 owners listserv, and some people asked me to post pictures of the installation on my boat (done by the PO). If anyone else wants to see the pictures, they are at www.peak.org/~reedbug/windlass.htm
  75. T

    E38 Anchor Roller

    Attached to this message are three pictures of an anchor roller I designed and built for my 1981 E38. I looked at most of the anchor rollers commercially available and determined they either didn't fit properly or didn't handle a variety of anchor designs. The unit is made from 3/8 sheet...
  76. Jeff Asbury

    Bow Anchor Roller.

    Has anyone installed a basic off the shelf bow anchor roller on a E-27? I am having difficulty finding a ideal location because of the locations of where the life lines come right down near the bow cleats. I also have a cowl vent in front of the opening (hole) anchor locker. I also have a...
  77. J

    Anchor locker revisited

    The older E 32 that I own is being refurbed since last year, and since the deck is being re-cored, my FBG man asked if I would like to install an Anchor hatch/locker? Has anyone installed a hatch, or should I install a chain pipe again. Currently, I only have the forepeak locker under the...
  78. W

    38-200 anchor locker cover

    It seems as the previous owner made some adjustments to the design of the anchor locker hatch cover, that are not verry appealing. I am looking for a esed hatch cover that someone may know about. Any help will be appreciated.
  79. R

    Fortress anchor size for 1973 E27

    I'm thinking about getting a light weight Fortress anchor as a present to my back. Their FX-7 (4 lbs) units says for up to a 27 footer. The FX-11 (7 lbs) for 28 to 32 feet. I think the E27 is probably heavier than a lot of 27 footers, so I'm wondering if I should go for the larger size...
  80. B

    Anchor Winch (?) on an E-27

    wincehs on an E27 I have a 1973 E27. I wonder if anyone has put a winch on the fordeck of one. MY arthritius is rather bad.... having help with the anchor would be a major plus for me. I am not so much looking for an endorsement of a brand is a winch that will fit in the small space...
  81. C

    Bow anchor roller

    My 1978 E34T has a hawse pipe but no windlass or anchor roller. I would like to install a bow roller. But, I have no forward anchor locker and the access port through the forward bulkhead into the chain locker is only big enough for my head. I have no idea how I could reach all the way forward...
  82. L

    Anchor rollers

    The anchor roller on the bow of my 39B has 4 bolts in a tight pattern near the aft end and nothing forward - The roller can be wiggled back and forth because of the slop in the holes and because of the huge mechanical advantage you get by pushing on the anchor end of it - There is no way I will...
  83. C

    Simpson Lawrence anchor windlass

    I have a 19 year old vertical Simpson Lawrence anchor windlass (model Volans or Dorado) mounted on my E38. It needs some work but I don't have the owners manual or instructions or any technical data. It is no longer listed on the Simpson Lawrence web site. Can anyone help me get this info...
  84. B

    Anchor Windlass for E-29

    Has anyone installed a electric or manual anchor windlass on their E-29? Thanks much Bobg
  85. R

    Stern Anchor setup

    Hi, all, anyone wants to share their experience and knowledge in using a stern anchor? How do you stow the rode for it? How do you deploy it and, what is more interesting, how do you retrieve it without scratching the gelcoat? Two obvious ways to set up the rode: either put a pipe trough...
  86. B

    Anchor Line Bitter End

    While restoring my '73 E25, I discovered that the forepeak anchor line locker has no place to tie the anchor line bitter end. There is no deckhatch access, just a deckpipe and cap. Maybe it is a holdover from my old powerboat days, but since I will be sailing with inexperienced crew and in...
  87. M

    Anchor Stowage

    Hello all - I'm having some difficulty with the placement of the anchor on my new (to me) E-27. It is a danforth and is currently mounted on the pulpit in such a way that the spinnaker and sometimes genny can foul on it. This never fails to inspire visions in my head of the sail...
  88. S

    1988 E35-3 Leak at anchor locker

    I have a 1988 E35-3, I have a significant leak at the compartment for the anchor on the bow. I have pulled off the headliner in the forward compartment and I've been keeping the area dry inside until I can rebed the locker. The previous owner has done this once already. Does anyone have any...
  89. T

    E38 Anchor Roller

    I am planning on replacing the short anchor roller on the bow of my 1981 E38. The current roller is a casting and inadequate for storing an anchor. I would appreciate any thoughts and pictures of anyone who has taken on a similar project. Any idea where Ericson purchased their bow rollers? A...
  90. Sean Engle

    Anchor Sail?

    I spent the other night on anchor out at a local island here - and awoke at 5 am (after a very still night) to 18 knot winds. My boat's stern was wagging back and forth like a dog's tail! I'm wondering if anyone has made or purchased one of those little sail kits for your backstay that you...
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