1977 Ericson 27

[Glyn Judson]

Handheld glut aboard our boat.

Joe and all, After sending that last message to you, I realized that it sounded a bit boastful and excessive to have three handheld's on our boat so here's how it breaks down. I have two at the ready in our boat for use in the dinghy, cockpit, etc and I have one more in an abandon ship module I made from a 2 foot length of 6" PVC irrigation pipe. Then there's one at home for listening to the weather. There that feels better, Glyn Judson, E31 hull #55, Marina del Rey, CA

 

[Sven]

A variation on the used VHF strategy

After we dropped our trusty handheld in 160' of water only to find out that it didn't float we asked for replacement advice on another forum. One great suggestion was to buy outdated new radios and the HX850s Handheld VHF w/GPS in particular was suggested.

We found some on Amazon for almost 1/2 the price of the current model. It floats, has DCS and a built-in GPS. As Glyn also suggests, prepare for when the rechargeable battery goes bad and buy a disposable battery holder too. We ended up getting the extra battery holders from Defender.



-Sven

 

[Joe M]

Now a question about through hull fittings

Glyn / SvenNever occurred to me that multiple handhelds would be necessary, especially in the event of an abandon ship. Speaking of which, the e27 has one (maybe2) through hull fittings port side just by the engine compartment. I believe it pulls water for the heat exchange for the diesel. The surveyor inspected the fittings inside and during the haul out. Interior Access to the fitting seems reasonable in the event of a failure but the thought of trying to reach back there to plug the leak seems daunting. hope neither of you have had that experience and never will, but if you have any suggestions you can pass along will be appreciated. ThanksJoe

 

[Sven]

Interior Access to the fitting seems reasonable in the event of a failure but the thought of trying to reach back there to plug the leak seems daunting. hope neither of you have had that experience and never will, but if you have any suggestions you can pass along will be appreciated. ThanksJoe

Good reason to check the double hose clamps and the seacock now, when it isn't leaking



-Sven

 

[toddbrsd]

My E-27

Glyn / SvenNever occurred to me that multiple handhelds would be necessary, especially in the event of an abandon ship. Speaking of which, the e27 has one (maybe2) through hull fittings port side just by the engine compartment. I believe it pulls water for the heat exchange for the diesel. The surveyor inspected the fittings inside and during the haul out. Interior Access to the fitting seems reasonable in the event of a failure but the thought of trying to reach back there to plug the leak seems daunting. hope neither of you have had that experience and never will, but if you have any suggestions you can pass along will be appreciated. ThanksJoe

Joe,

I have the A4 on my E27, but the through hulls are probably the same. On mine, the smaller one, farther aft is for the water intake to cool the engine. The bigger one forward is for the STARBOARD scuppers in the cockpit. If you have not figured out, the scuppers drain to the opposite sides! Access is tuff, even with my 5'6" frame. Just replaced both last haul out, after owning for less than a year. Until then (and still do), kept wooden plugs as well as a toilet wax ring nearby, in case I had to stuff it in an irregular hole. Got that tip from this site. Out of laziness, I generally leave the aft thru hull (engine intake) open at all times since it is new, but the previous owner rigged an "extending arm" from the valve to near the cabinet door. I should reattach it.

I am also guilty of having multiple handhelds on-board, all 3 bought used. When I solo, I carry it on my PFD. Unfortunately I just realized that the Uniden 250 that I bought fairly recently does not transmit. No wonder I could not hail Harbor Patrol. If you buy used, make sure to take it down to the marina and do a radio check. Channel 27 has an automated radio check around here (Huntington Beach).

 

[AleksT]

On my E27 the rear thru hull is for engine cooling water (since I am removing my dead inboard I am considering using that one for the ice box drain so I can keep my bilge dry) the forward one is for the sink drain. I have only one scupper in the cockpit all the way aft. Thankfully it is quite large and a hose pouring water full blast into the cockpit does not fill the cockpit with water.

 

[Jeff Asbury]

I think all your thru hull questions have been answered.

About portables:

Love my little ICOM IC-M2A. Bought it new 9 years ago. Never had a problem. It's been splashed a lot but I have never immersed it in water. Still takes a charge just fine. Waterproof, but does not float. Also have 110 or 12 volt charging options, as well as a cartridge that allows it to take AA batteries. The range on most of these hand held is basically the same. It will receive long distance strong signals, but it's transmission is limited to 5 or 10 miles. With my fixed mount WM DSC I can often hear channel 9 Patrol at Isthmus cove from just outside the breakwater in San Pedro.

That new Standard Horizon with GPS looks nice, but pricey. That's okay because I carry two older hand held Magellan Meridian Marine GPS's that are both 9 years old and work perfectly. I have one interfaced with my auto pilot and fixed DSC VHF, an one for the ditch bag. They are water proof as well and supposedly float, but I have never dunked them to see.

I sail Econo.

 

[Sven]

That new Standard Horizon with GPS looks nice, but pricey. That's okay because I carry two older hand held Magellan Meridian Marine GPS's that are both 9 years old and work perfectly. I have one interfaced with my auto pilot and fixed DSC VHF, an one for the ditch bag. They are water proof as well and supposedly float, but I have never dunked them to see.

A floating VHF with 110/12 volt charging and DCS and GPS (for DCS distress with location) at $135 doesn't seem pricey to me. Like I said, it was the old model that was no longer offered and I found it on Amazon. The extra battery holder was expensive, probably $25 ea.



-Sven

 

[Joe M]

Fathers day gift

Well as it turns out my family gave me a icom M34 for Fathers Day. Seems like a nice radio and hope to put it to use this weekend sailing from Dana Point to King Harbor. I'm thinking this is a 15 hour journey under power.

 

[Joe M]

Here are a few pictures

http://photobucket.com/albums/l482/Jmack2613/Chiquita the fist lookProbably bad karma to post pictures of a boat I don't yet own, but here she is. Hopefully the link works as I'm new to forums as well as sailing.

 

[toddbrsd]

Not Working

http://photobucket.com/albums/l482/Jmack2613/Chiquita the fist lookProbably bad karma to post pictures of a boat I don't yet own, but here she is. Hopefully the link works as I'm new to forums as well as sailing.

You might try uploading a few pictures directly to your post. Look down below at "Manage Attachments".

 

[Jeff Asbury]

Well as it turns out my family gave me a icom M34 for Fathers Day. Seems like a nice radio and hope to put it to use this weekend sailing from Dana Point to King Harbor. I'm thinking this is a 15 hour journey under power.

I think your about right. It took me 9 hours to get from Dana Point to San Pedro on one trip, and 4 hours to get to King Harbor on another trip. Try to leave very early because the after noon winds may be on your nose a lot of the way.

 

[Jeff Asbury]

http://photobucket.com/albums/l482/Jmack2613/Chiquita the fist lookProbably bad karma to post pictures of a boat I don't yet own, but here she is. Hopefully the link works as I'm new to forums as well as sailing.

Photobucket says: "Page not found
But now that you're here, go ahead and search through the billions of photos, images and videos on Photobucket."

 

[Joe M]

Checking in

I still have not taken posession of the e 27 but hopefully before the July 4 holiday. Both the owner and the buyer (that would be me) seem motivated to resolve the remaining details. By the way would rather be at sea for the holiday than navigating the Los Angeles freeways with the 405 shut down for construction. There are a few pictures posted in my profile!

 

[Jeff Asbury]

Looks to be in pretty good shape. I remember seeing that boat in Dana Point years ago. A friend of mine had a sport fisher docked near it. I think I also remember seeing it listed on Yachtworld.com before. Does it have a A-4 or a diesel? Nice Pics. Good luck with your purchase!

 

[Joe M]

Making room for a Universal M25

The owner prior to the current owner replaced the old Atomic with a Universal M-25 which was a bit oversized for the engine compartment. To accomodate the larger engine the portside of the engine compartment was cut out.

 

[Jeff Asbury]

Yowza, thats big! :0


That is a big engine for a E-27, but diesel is the way to go. Bet you can cruise over 8 knots, vs my little 8hp Yanmar at 4.5 - 5 knots. You will like the additional power in a head wind, or strong tidal areas. A friend of mine re-powered a Islander 28 with a 3 cylinder Yanmar 27 hp and he can cruise at 9 knots.

 

[Joe M]

tiller work out

She is a tad overpowered especially when the RPMs get over 2200 the tiller has a mind of its own.

 

[Loren Beach]

While the M25 is physically a bit large, the hp was just 21.
I wonder if the engine was obtained as a used engine? Rebuilt maybe?
Note that it is spec'd out to cruise at about 2500 rpm, and may need a flatter-pitch prop than it has at present.
LB

 

[Joe M]

need a new prop

The engine is a rebuild and not new; about 500 hours on it. Don't know why the owner at the time went for the larger engine.

The Survey reports that the prop needs to be replaced which I was planning to do at then end of the season, as well as a new bottom coat. Thanks for the suggestion about a flatter prop - I have a lot to learn!

Attached is a photo of the bottom from the haul outand a portion of the prop can be viewed from the side. Don't know if this is flat or not.

Still not closed, hopefully soon