35-3 Port Chainplate Pics?

trickdhat

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I'm replacing all the pluming for my head and like every other project, it's "providing other opportunities for improvement" (I'm trying for the optimistic side today). I noticed the washers and nuts for the cap shroud chainplates have some rust. I tried searching for some pics and/or advice, but could only find details on the chainplates with rods. Does anyone have pics of the Port cap shroud chainplates that are directly connected to the bulkhead? I'd like to know what I'm getting into before I start taking it apart.
 

trickdhat

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Thanks, Christian. That looks like the 35-3, so maybe I can extend my ask to the 38's as well. I'm wondering what's under the headliner. I've seen how the rod attaches to a block where the u bolts attach, but I don't know how the chaiplate that's bolted to the bulkhead ends up at u bolts above deck. Is there a perpendicular plate welded to the piece I'm seeing on the bulkhead?
 

trickdhat

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Ah! I'm sorry, I'm looking at my pictures again and I got turned around. The cap shrouds do go the the rod coming from the bulkhead. The aft lowers go to their own chainplate on the back of the port sete. Thanks again
 

1911tex

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I'm replacing all the pluming for my head and like every other project, it's "providing other opportunities for improvement" (I'm trying for the optimistic side today). I noticed the washers and nuts for the cap shroud chainplates have some rust. I tried searching for some pics and/or advice, but could only find details on the chainplates with rods. Does anyone have pics of the Port cap shroud chainplates that are directly connected to the bulkhead? I'd like to know what I'm getting into before I start taking it apart.
My next trip to my E35-3 will be this weekend...I will take a pic of the port chainplates.
 

trickdhat

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I'm a little embarrassed in my haste to post my question. I'm down on the boat 2-3 times per week, but I've been spending all my time in the head on the other side of the bulkhead.

I’m contemplating expanding the scope of my head replacement project to include removing and inspecting the chainplates. It may sound like an odd connection, but putting the new system in will significantly reduce access to the port side chainplate bolts. I’ve also noticed some rust on the nuts and washers so I’m thinking this is a good time to tackle this.

Ideally, the rig would be removed and everything would be addressed at once, but that’s a larger project I’m not willing to take on now. The primary reason for doing it now is to take advantage of the hoses being out of the way, so I’m focusing on the port chainplates attached to the bulkhead. I’m wondering if I can

  • back the turnbuckles above the deck off to where the tension is removed, but keep them connected to the U-Bolts
  • Run the main Halyard over the port outboard T-Track and tension
  • back off the tie rod turnbuckles below deck for the forward lowers, and cap shroud
  • disconnect tie rod from the chainplates attached to the bulkhead.
  • Remove bulkhead chainplates and inspect, clean or replace as needed
  • Reinstall chainplates to the bulkhead with new nuts, bolts, and washers
  • Connect tie rods and tension the rig
I’m hoping between the mast being keel stepped, the main halyard rigged to port, and the shrouds remaining on the u-bolts, the mast will be stable at the dock while I tackle this project. My main concern is the deck flex while the tie rod is removed. Does this sound reasonable or do I need to remove the shrouds completely from the U bolts?
 

1911tex

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I'm replacing all the pluming for my head and like every other project, it's "providing other opportunities for improvement" (I'm trying for the optimistic side today). I noticed the washers and nuts for the cap shroud chainplates have some rust. I tried searching for some pics and/or advice, but could only find details on the chainplates with rods. Does anyone have pics of the Port cap shroud chainplates that are directly connected to the bulkhead? I'd like to know what I'm getting into before I start taking it apart.
Trickdhat Ref: Post #5....I hope these pics help?
 

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Christian Williams

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Maybe I misunderstand, but this type of chainplate, on the interior, seems easy to inspect in place.

A little rust on the stainless would clean off easily and be just cosmetic. I can see disassembling them if the bulkhead itself seems compromised, or if there's rot, or if the bolt-holes in the wood need an annulus, or there wre some other obvious flaw in the integrity of the system. Otherwise....sounds like a lot of work.
 

trickdhat

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I have a leak coming from the dorade box that dripped down the front of the bulkhead. I'm optimistic the wood is ok. But some of the bolts have more rust then I'm comfortable with. There's some rust stains dripping from behind the chain plate backing plate. I'm not too worried about it, but I'm thinking now is the time to inspect with all the plumbing out of the way.

I made a starboard piece to install over the dorade box to hopefully solve the leak and I'll rebed the bar over the box.
 

1911tex

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I have a leak coming from the dorade box that dripped down the front of the bulkhead. I'm optimistic the wood is ok. But some of the bolts have more rust then I'm comfortable with. There's some rust stains dripping from behind the chain plate backing plate. I'm not too worried about it, but I'm thinking now is the time to inspect with all the plumbing out of the way.

I made a starboard piece to install over the dorade box to hopefully solve the leak and I'll rebed the bar over the box.
trickdhat: I had the same leaky dorade problem. Seems very common. Covering the top of the dorade is o.k. but the water going into the vents will still be problematic. I used 2-part epoxy and saturated the inside of the dorade which solved the problem. Do a search (injectadeck) on quickly repairing the sandwiched balsa on the foredeck ahead and starboard of the dorade which was damaged by the leaky dorade, leaked into our cabin starboard headliner and left a soft deck. (In your case, dripped down the bulkhead). This is an easy do-it-yourself project!
 
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