I don't specifically recall this regarding the 38 rudder and neither does my father. This kind of thing was typical and having to retool a rudder mold wouldn't surprise me at all.
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I don't specifically recall this regarding the 38 rudder and neither does my father. This kind of thing was typical and having to retool a rudder mold wouldn't surprise me at all.
The Ericson name was coined by Ray Handy. The story as I heard it was there was a guy who was assigned
the task of coming up with a name, but his suggestions were so bad that one day Ray Handy just showed up
making an executive decision. "We're calling it Ericson".
The provenance of the original logo is murky. It may have been done
by a gentleman named Ed Greer, who was handling the advertising for Ericson. When Ed actually started with the
company, nobody I know can recall.
Martin
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GrandpaSteve
Sustaining Member
Thin blue cove stripe and white mast and boom 1987 32-III
I've learned that on my 1987 E32-III the thin blue cove stripe and white mast and boom are unusual. Is there any story behind that, or was it a customer option?
I've learned that on my 1987 E32-III the thin blue cove stripe and white mast and boom are unusual. Is there any story behind that, or was it a customer option?
Alan Gomes
Sustaining Partner
Or a previous owner made the change? The PO of my boat repainted the cove stripe and I had my mast pulled and LP'd white. Changes like that on a 30 year old boat are not at all unusual.
GrandpaSteve
Sustaining Member
Thanks Alan, that is certainly possible, I am curious about the possibility of it leaving the factory that way though.
Alan Gomes
Sustaining Partner
Are you wondering because you are thinking of putting it back to the "factory" colors--or just out of curiosity? Is the paint peeling off of your mast and you need to repaint it? That was the case with mine. I briefly considered LP'ing it black, like it originally was, but abandoned that idea because white holds up better, all other things being equal. In my opinion the white looks better as well--but of course that's a subjective judgment.
The cove stripe is also purely cosmetic. One of the PO's of my boat covered over the dark blue (original gelcoat) stripe with a lighter blue painted one. I think the darker blue actually would look better. I don't know if he painted it over because the gelcoat was in bad shape underneath or because he simply preferred light blue. The paint is still holding up more or less OK, but at some point I may take paint remover and remove it and try to restore the original underlying gelcoat. But right now that's not a priority.
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Roger
Member II
In the 80’s, the factory offered 2 color options for masts – white or black. Interestingly, most of the black masts went to West Coast buyers, and white to all the rest.
The most common cove & boot stripes were a single solid color, usually “Midwatch Blue”. Other stripe configurations such as narrow single or double stripes were available as a factory option. Of course, a PO could have made these changes as Alan mentioned.
A little Ericson trivia: when we tooled the 32-3, we decided to make the cove stripe flush with the hull, which made it much easier to mask off in the mold. Most or all previous Ericsons had a cove stripe that stood out from the hull.
When Bruce King first saw a 32 hull, he wasn’t happy about the aesthetics of the flush stripe, but it was too late to change at that point. However, on the next new boat we tooled (28), there was a prominent note on Bruce’s profile drawing: “Cove stripe damn well better stand proud ¼””.
The most common cove & boot stripes were a single solid color, usually “Midwatch Blue”. Other stripe configurations such as narrow single or double stripes were available as a factory option. Of course, a PO could have made these changes as Alan mentioned.
A little Ericson trivia: when we tooled the 32-3, we decided to make the cove stripe flush with the hull, which made it much easier to mask off in the mold. Most or all previous Ericsons had a cove stripe that stood out from the hull.
When Bruce King first saw a 32 hull, he wasn’t happy about the aesthetics of the flush stripe, but it was too late to change at that point. However, on the next new boat we tooled (28), there was a prominent note on Bruce’s profile drawing: “Cove stripe damn well better stand proud ¼””.
With regards to the mast/boom color, my 1990 E38 is white. It's also a Sparcraft rig, but based on previous EY.o discussions, it seems most everybody has black Kenyon masts. Maybe around 1990 when Ericson was going under, they had too much credit run up with Kenyon, so switched to Sparcraft. There are several things on the boat which really make you wonder what was going on at the factory...
On old Ericson / Pacific Seacraft dealer recently looked at my interior, and noted some of the detailing was Pacific Sea Craft (vinyl headliner, teak trim). Just some more things that make me wonder what was happening around that transition time.
On old Ericson / Pacific Seacraft dealer recently looked at my interior, and noted some of the detailing was Pacific Sea Craft (vinyl headliner, teak trim). Just some more things that make me wonder what was happening around that transition time.
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Different spar, different color
As I recall, that particular spar did not appear tapered.
Looked like new though, as did the rest of the boat.
Loren
As I recall, that particular spar did not appear tapered.
Looked like new though, as did the rest of the boat.
Loren
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It's tapered.
GrandpaSteve
Sustaining Member
1987 32-III colors question
Thanks for all the replies. My question was curiosity. The spars are white Kenyon spars, and I believe the narrow blue cove stripe is original. I just wondered because I don't see that often in person or in pictures.
Thanks for all the replies. My question was curiosity. The spars are white Kenyon spars, and I believe the narrow blue cove stripe is original. I just wondered because I don't see that often in person or in pictures.
Rick has a white mast on his 32-200. I have an anodized black Kenyon. Here is the factory '85 cove stripe on the 32-3, gel coat, and it retains its teal blue color.
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GrandpaSteve
Sustaining Member
Rub-rail porn acknowledged
That is one sharp looking rub-rail.
That is one sharp looking rub-rail.
Doug177
Member III
Martin....could you ask your dad?
What NACA Foil Profiles he used on the Ericson 35-3 keel and rudder? Or did he design his own? What were the designed leading and trailing edge angles.
Did he commonly use a favorite profile on all his boats? Did he have a design theory on the subject?
Where the lead keel castings fairly accurate to his specified profiles? How about the rudder molds?
Or has this been answered and I haven't found it yet?
Doug
What NACA Foil Profiles he used on the Ericson 35-3 keel and rudder? Or did he design his own? What were the designed leading and trailing edge angles.
Did he commonly use a favorite profile on all his boats? Did he have a design theory on the subject?
Where the lead keel castings fairly accurate to his specified profiles? How about the rudder molds?
Or has this been answered and I haven't found it yet?
Doug
Yup, we've dealt with that
Our '88 model boat did not come with a tie point for the bitter end, either.
http://www.ericsonyachts.org/infoexchange/showthread.php?3951-Re-Galvanizing-Anchors
If you look closely at the photos, on the starboard side of the well near the top, you will see a good-sized SS eye. I added that along with a backing plate on the other side. It was a bit gnarly to reach up from the inside of the forepeak with the wrench while someone else held the screwdriver. Seems solid enough to me. There is a sister ship moored nearby now (!) and he has the tell tale end of his anchor line emerging from the compartment and tied to a cleat... just like I used to do.
Cheers,
Loren
Our '88 model boat did not come with a tie point for the bitter end, either.
http://www.ericsonyachts.org/infoexchange/showthread.php?3951-Re-Galvanizing-Anchors
If you look closely at the photos, on the starboard side of the well near the top, you will see a good-sized SS eye. I added that along with a backing plate on the other side. It was a bit gnarly to reach up from the inside of the forepeak with the wrench while someone else held the screwdriver. Seems solid enough to me. There is a sister ship moored nearby now (!) and he has the tell tale end of his anchor line emerging from the compartment and tied to a cleat... just like I used to do.
Cheers,
Loren
I was always told there is traditionally to be no attachment for the bitter end--it would serve no purpose, anyhow.
Keeping that ground tackle onboard.
Christian and others, Tradition aside, I have a factory installed D-ring permanently glassed into the hull in the anchor locker, photo attached. I also have an eye spliced into the bitter end of my rode with it all tied together with a bronze shackle, photo attached. Forgive the rust, I'll have to change that some day when it's near the last thing I have left to do on the boat. Glyn
Christian and others, Tradition aside, I have a factory installed D-ring permanently glassed into the hull in the anchor locker, photo attached. I also have an eye spliced into the bitter end of my rode with it all tied together with a bronze shackle, photo attached. Forgive the rust, I'll have to change that some day when it's near the last thing I have left to do on the boat. Glyn
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