Wanted: Ericson E32, E34, E35 near Lake Erie & Lake Ontario

kapnkd

kapnkd
Strictly FWIW, I would put Pearson's much lower down on your list, at least the ones from the 80's. When we were shopping we toured one (about 33') and got to the rubber gasket stanchion bases - wobbling back n forth with water oozing out, and walked away. It's a pretty sure way to allow water into deck coring, and no other production was using this that I know of. This was a very long way from the EY method of attachment of deck hardware in that era.

Water intrusion into the decks and balsa coring is perhaps one of the more serious and troublesome gremlins to deal with in buying an older boat.

It’s not always that easy to detect and can prove a costly but needed/critical repair when finally realized.

One of the members at our boat club had a moisture meter he would rent out to fellow members for a nominal fee (obviously offsetting his own costs). We since have bought our own. They can be found online in prices ranging from a little over $100. to several hundred dollars.

A good marine surveyor will certainly have and use one for any vessel you have him check - but - the use of one by you personally can help quickly determine whether or not to spend your money on a survey.
 

Dave G.

1984 EY30+ Ludington, MI
Strictly FWIW, I would put Pearson's much lower down on your list
Interesting as I looked at a few Pearsons and they all had deck moisture issues. I even had one broker tell me that "this is normal on these boats, you just need to inject some epoxy to repair it"(sure, ah no thanks). What I eventually found out is Pearson had a problem with their hull to deck joints which allowed water into the deck core. If you google "Pearson hull to deck joint" you'll get a lot of info.
 

Christian Williams

E381 - Los Angeles
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I was admiring yesterday the 2011 J-111 a dockmate just bought. Quite a sexy 36-foot racer/cruiser.

Lots of activity on deck because every deck fitting was being removed and recaulked--after 10 years.

"They all leak," said the new owner, shaking his head.
 

sf1332

Junior Member
I was admiring yesterday the 2011 J-111 a dockmate just bought. Quite a sexy 36-foot racer/cruiser.

Lots of activity on deck because every deck fitting was being removed and recaulked--after 10 years.

"They all leak," said the new owner, shaking his head.
The most expensive boat I've seen this year is a J-32 sitting on the hard...late 90's model. I've been told that J-boats command premium mainly because of better marketing not necessarily better quality, so wanted to check one out.

Her topsides, hull/keel and rudder were in beautiful condition. However, when I stepped on the deck, I immediately noticed hairline/spider gelcoat crazings and cracks literally all over the deck especially near the hardware. Eventual water intrusion or sun damage if not redone?

The broker told me this is typical of J boats of that vintage. He said some people don't mind it at all, and some do. Perhaps I am a little shallow when it comes to cosmetics of my boat, but I didn't spend much more time on the boat after that.
 

sf1332

Junior Member
Strictly FWIW, I would put Pearson's much lower down on your list, at least the ones from the 80's. When we were shopping we toured one (about 33') and got to the rubber gasket stanchion bases - wobbling back n forth with water oozing out, and walked away. It's a pretty sure way to allow water into deck coring, and no other common production builder was using this that I know of. This was a very long way from the EY method of attachment of deck hardware in that era.
Loren, I've been looking at Pearsons mainly because (1) they are relatively more available in my area and (2) they seem to have a good perf. "ratios" such as SA/D for boats with reasonable sail area I think I can handle alone.

Yes, learned a lot about stanchion gasket issues and other moisture on the deck issues on Pearsons (and to be honest, on other older boats to a varying degree).

Once I saw a Pearson on SL with a really attractive price and with all the nice photos and great inventory list, so I called the owner right away. After hearing that I will need to truck the boat to Erie, PA, this honest owner explained to me kindly that she's a wrong boat for me as the boat has serious moisture issues on cabin top, and it would take 20k+ to fix it, and the boat might not even survive the trip to Erie!

Currently, to share with everyone, my brand rankings are:

1. Ericson (PSE/Olson) (32-35' models only)
2. CS (34 only)
3. C&C (30-34 models only)
4. Pearson (30-34 models only)

I have decided to stop researching and seeing Tartan models of 80's vintage, and I cannot get myself to like Catalinas or Hunters after seeing a few. These 3 brands of boats are very common in my area (Lake Erie), fyi.
 
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